Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

[The Cowboy]

The second amendment doesn't say that you can have a gun for self defence against intruders. It's to allow the public to form a local militia in the event of a war.

Several countries have fun ownership rights, and they don't have a problem with folk going on killing sprees. Says more about the US as a society than simply the fact they are allowed to carry guns.

 

[dandydan]

Can't open the link so I'm jumping to conclusions.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Can't open the link so I'm jumping to conclusions.

That's the spirit

 

[TheFinnFan]

Nothing will change before Islam goes through a reform like Christianity did back then.

 

[tsubaki]

Nothing will change before Islam goes through a reform like Christianity did back then.

Islam is going through exactly that sort of "reform" now, though.

 

[jaycee]

Apparently the gun man was seen in the club and a member of a gay dating site conflict of religion and life style causing melt down?

 

[The Cowboy]

Apparently the gun man was seen in the club and a member of a gay dating site conflict of religion and life style causing melt down?

Interesting how he chose to take it out on the lifestyle, not the religion.

 

[jaycee]

Interesting how he chose to take it out on the lifestyle, not the religion.

Maybe I wasnt inside his head so dont know what turmoil was in there,obviously was messed up,maybe thought redemption could be reached by taking out the "sinners"

 

[ItsOKImAPilot]

Why certainly.

@dandydan
@RaleighBlue

Listen up. In 1996 we had a mass murder not unlike the one you guys seem to have every week. It didn't happen every week to us, but when it did happen, we were horrified. Mortified. We took a good, long hard look at the guns we had and we decided that in the good name of common sense we were mad as hell and weren't going to stand for it anymore. And by 'it', I mean guns. In that very same year we, as a Nation, decided that guns were the means to disaster. Not every one agreed, but we talked about it for a minute, reflected on the innocent dead who had just popped in for cup of coffee and spot of lunch and were massacred senselessly and made a collective, common sense decision.

Now, far be it for me to lecture you on your own affairs, I'm just telling you what we did. And it worked. Mass murders down 100%. Sure, if you are absolutely hell bent on murdering people or yourself, you'll find a way to do it. They reckon that Germanwings Pilot did one and the same and he didn't use a gun.

It's quite clearly common sense, that the 2nd Amendment, in this day and age, is just about the most ridiculous law in any Western country. It puts deadly weapons into the hands of the people that should never ever have a deadly weapon, and rather than protecting you, it has set you into a spiral to calamitous end. Would you also argue that every country should have their own Nuclear Weapons?

To us, to Amend this amendment doesn't look like you would give up your freedom, it would actually set you free.

First posted by Mcbain for GOT.COM

Awesome post. The issue here though is the amount of weapons already in circulation. There is no plan that could ever get rid of guns in our society. People would just deal them under the table.

 

[The Cowboy]

Maybe I wasnt inside his head so dont know what turmoil was in there,obviously was messed up,maybe thought redemption could be reached by taking out the "sinners"

Sure, shame he couldn't just be who he wanted to be.

 

[mezzrow]

Nothing will change before Islam goes through a reform like Christianity did back then.

Islam is going through exactly that sort of "reform" now, though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years'_War

Those, too, were interesting times.

 

[jaycee]

Sure, shame he couldn't just be who he wanted to be.

Happens with a lot of people with strong religious beliefs I suppose,though belonging to a group that condemns that life style to the point where its punishable by death must cause untold turmoil in the mind,uts tough enough coming out in any circumstances

 

[The Cowboy]

Awesome post. The issue here though is the amount of weapons already in circulation. There is no plan that could ever get rid of guns in our society. People would just deal them under the table.

Well of course they would, just like they do now. They're called criminals. Tell most regular folks that they can't have a gun anymore and most will just turn them in. Those who don't become a criminal. At least when the cops then see someone with a gun, they know they're a criminal and can be dealt with accordingly.

 

[The Cowboy]

Happens with a lot of people with strong religious beliefs I suppose,though belonging to a group that condemns that life style to the point where its punishable by death must cause untold turmoil in the mind,uts tough enough coming out in any circumstances

Well I only hope I live long enough to see folk able to make decisions without having to think about any religious implications.

 

[mezzrow]

Well of course they would, just like they do now. They're called criminals. Tell most regular folks that they can't have a gun anymore and most will just turn them in. Those who don't become a criminal. At least when the cops then see someone with a gun, they know they're a criminal and can be dealt with accordingly.

ME: I shot this home invader when he broke through my door into my house and threatened my life and property.
POLICE: Oh look. Two criminals.