Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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You go to great lengths to justify attempted murder. No your posts are the ridiculous ones.

The Facts

He did not have a weapon no knife and no gun.
He was shot in the back while unarmed
They could have reused the taser.
They could have used the methods they are trained in to take him down
They wear stab vests and as others have pointed out they are trained how to disable suspect much like many other police forces.

They had no idea if he had a weapon in the car and thus cannot presume he does and shoot him for simple leaning into his car. Say he found the knife. They were a good foot to two feet behind him and had the jump on him if he had pulled it.

The sad part is many of us that live here see this stuff everyday and know people who get treated as if they did something wrong when pulled over.

The cops went to the extreme and are rightly being called out. Time and time again they overstep and make excuses.

When people like you makes excuses for them it slows the process of having something change.

Their broken process needs to be fixed
They pull guns are are jumpy. Despite the training they get they are more willing to shoot than think about it.

He had the gun drawn. It happened in the space of 5 seconds. If he holstered the gun, that time lost means a potential bullet in his head.

I'm not making excuses - you are for an idiot who ignored police orders. You'll be the one shocked when the cop gets completely exonerated for acting perfectly within reason, which I'm absolutely certain will happen.
 
not very likely I'm afraid. Come live here a while, not long before you begin to get an idea of the problem of institutional racism

There's no racism in that incident. You're making an assumption based on no evidence whatsoever.

George Floyd was clear as day racism. Excessive force against a helpless suspect because of clear prejudice. This is nothing like it, not remotely comparable.
 
He had the gun drawn. It happened in the space of 5 seconds. If he holstered the gun, that time lost means a potential bullet in his head.

I'm not making excuses - you are for an idiot who ignored police orders. You'll be the one shocked when the cop gets completely exonerated for acting perfectly within reason, which I'm absolutely certain will happen.

Mate, if you're behind someone and think they're reaching for a gun shoot their shoulders, shoot their arms, disable them from using the gun.

Shooting someone way more times than needed to kill in the back is not the answer.
 
There's no racism in that incident. You're making an assumption based on no evidence whatsoever.

George Floyd was clear as day racism. Excessive force against a helpless suspect because of clear prejudice. This is nothing like it, not remotely comparable.
The reason he was resisting arrest was down to institutional racism
The reason the cop didn't try to de-escalate the situation is down to institutional racism
I hate to say this but you cant fully understand it till you see it.
 
Mate, if you're behind someone and think they're reaching for a gun shoot their shoulders, shoot their arms, disable them from using the gun.

Shooting someone way more times than needed to kill in the back is not the answer.

If he shoots, catches a shoulder with one bullet, then the suspect isn't incapacitated and can still grab and fire.

The decision to shoot is to incapacitate. Totally. Hence more than one shot. One bullet, seven bullets, fifty bullets - doesn't matter, it's simply as many as it takes to incapacitate.

The officers life was in clear danger given the circumstances. When he's cleared of all wrongdoing, people will still wring their hands and scream injustice instead of looking at the situation logically. Because that's the world we live in.

Fact is, that situation doesn't happen if an idiot isn't an idiot.
 
Mate, if you're behind someone and think they're reaching for a gun shoot their shoulders, shoot their arms, disable them from using the gun.

Shooting someone way more times than needed to kill in the back is not the answer.
I'm not getting into the legality of the shooting that's took place, but as I've said before this is really not the way it happens nor is it how you're trained.

You don’t shoot to kill: you shoot the largest body mass, which is the chest, as it is the safest thing to do in the wider context for all parties.
 
I'm not getting into the legality of the shooting that's took place, but as I've said before this is really not the way it happens nor is it how you're trained.

You don’t shoot to kill: you shoot the largest body mass, which is the chest, as it is the safest thing to do in the wider context for all parties.

So a police officer has no training/ability to incapacitate someone from a couple of feet away that isn't 7 shots to the back?
 
Mate, if you're behind someone and think they're reaching for a gun shoot their shoulders, shoot their arms, disable them from using the gun.

Shooting someone way more times than needed to kill in the back is not the answer.

Or, if you've been called for a misdemeanor at a kids party.
Maybe try and not arrest anyone, or tazer anyone or any of that.
Maybe try and talk the people down.
Ignore the verbal taunts, think of the bigger picture.
If there is grounds to arrest someone and you think it might be difficult to arrest on site,
monitor the situation, you have their license plate numbers, you know who they are
You can serve a warrant later or stall for backup or get in community volunteers etc to help de-escalate.
If you have to shoot an unarmed person in the back seven times, you have no place being a cop.
That's the problem, too many have no place being a cop.
The system is racist and broken.
 
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