The white kid was not concealing a weapon, was legal to open carry if a certain age and hadn't ignored police orders.
You know the differences yet you refuse to acknowledge them, because you want a set narrative.
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The white kid was not concealing a weapon, was legal to open carry if a certain age and hadn't ignored police orders.
You know the differences yet you refuse to acknowledge them, because you want a set narrative.
What you're saying is right in the sense it probably does go through their mind, but thinking objectively can you appreciate that it's a slippery slope if we allow that?
If we (as a population) excuse people for resisting arrest or fleeing lawful detention, you set a precedent where people regardless of race could argue it.
"I'm X so it doesn't apply to me". Now, I know that in many ways how BME have been treated hasn't been equal, but I will always advocate that we shouldn't race...
... to the bottom. The principle should be that we raise the standards of the police, i.e. remove racism, rather than facilitating a worrying relaxation or precedent.
If there's a warrant against him and that's why they were stopping him, regardless of all the above you mentioned well he has the duty to comply with detention.
To not execute a warrant because of the colour of someone's skin, religion or whatever makes a mockery of the law. I understand people want their freedom...
... and they will try to flee, but that doesn't negate the point that the officers were obliged to detain him if they knew there was a warrant against him.
Am I saying there wasn't racism in play? No, but I don't know if there was. Am I saying it should have been dealt with better? Yes, yes I am.
But, I cannot excuse people for resisting arrest.
I am not "for" anyone.
What I am for is the Police not shooting someone when they feel like it. So what he's been aggressive. He didn't assault any off them. If anything they were pathetic trying to bring him down. They couldn't and so to simply end it they shot him. They gave up a d used the easiest means. Then followed the excuses. Excuses you have bought into hook line and sinker. Excuses Americans as a majority are sick off.
Have you ever been pulled over by a cop in the US?
If you had you would know they keep their hand on their holster as they approach. If you are a minority they are more easily inclined to draw the weapon.
Look at the people who continue to like your posts. One you will find is a racist.
Given that everyone else disagrees with you assertion and opinion tells you that for the majority the facts are clear and no spin you give will justify that.
An unarmed man was shot in the back. A man who had no weapons on him
Also pathetic you use the point that they will clear the cops to throw at me. Given thats the fecking point or haven't you been awake. The cops continue to use excessive force and the powers that be let them and exonerate them hence exasperating the bloody issue.
The fact you cannot see that and think at the same time you deal in facts and logic is astonishing.
Of course we cant allow it to be an excuse.
The only way to avoid it is to raise the standard of policing.
Root out white supremacists from forces.
Break down the power of cop unions and end immunity.
Involve community organizers and mental health specialists.
make sure forces evenly represent the population when it comes to race.
Change the bail process.
Make body cameras mandatory.
Introduce degrees in policing where people study for years, not weeks.
Take cops out of schools so they are not hard wired to be the enemy.
I'm sure there are tons of other ways to improve things but none of them are happening.
Christ, there are cops that drive around my neighborhood with punisher stickers on their windows!
but he wasnt that age, and they didnt check his ID.
A guy with a gun at the scene of a shooting and they didnt even ID him.
come on man.
He ignored police orders and reached into his car.
And you call that scenario the police shooting simply because they "felt like it".
Ridiculous.
I agree with all although this one only to an extent. Yes, there should be a drive for better representation in forces and it should better represent the ethic make up.
It's not unrealistic to feel that as a person who is BME you may feel safer with a non-white cop, or you will have someone who understands your circumstances.
Yet if you look at the killing of George Floyd, I seem to recollect that two of the cops weren't white. Why am I bringing this? Well, they should have known better.
Therefore, I feel that if we're looking at improving policing as a whole then the focus must be on the right for the right jobs combined with a drive for equality.
Picking someone purely because they're white, black, Asian, a man, a woman, straight, BI or whatever to aid representation doesn't ensure improved standards.
Representation is a part of this and it's something that must be focused on through engaging and attracting x-demographics, but it must be the right candidate.
Perhaps I as a white person may not truly appreciate this (I accept that), however if I call on the police I don't care for their race, religion, gender or orientation...
... I want someone who will do the job properly and impartially. Those two cops with Floyd's killer, regardless of their race, didn't help him or their community.
All the rest however is correct, and in the UK you could argue all that's done or being done.
d34noj
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I'm not here to pander to anyone, I have my opinions and I'll stick to them. I'm bored of all of this moral outrage by certain individuals.
The reason he resisted is because he was going to be sent to prison, as he had a warrant out for his arrest. Nothing to do with racism in this instance.
The police had already tried to calm the situation by apprehending him in numbers - then tasering him. These didn't work, and A VIOLENT CRIMINAL WITH A HISTORY OF GUN CRIME REACHES INTO HIS CAR. Now what would you assume he is doing if an already angry man with that demeanour is reaching into his car?
The faux outrage in this thread is absolutely laughable. Do you think he would have been shot if he had just laid down and been handcuffed like officers no doubt asked him to do?
They shot him in the back. Again in the back.
Clearly they had an advantage and had him dead to rights before he could even grab anything in the car. They had him covered on both sides of the car.
Honestly you are being obtuse and quite frankly the level you have gone to justify their actions is hilarious.
Again resisting arrest does not give them the green light to shoot him. Thats the law pal.
Their only out here will be to use the same reasons they always use. They feared for their lives. When they use that as a defense you know they were wrong. The fact the chief is harping on about a knive no one saw tells you all you need to know. They wear stab vests and they were several feet behind him. Any attempt to stab them would have been fruitless. But again they didn't even know they had it.
They cannot shoot someone just becuase he has history of violence ffs this is dumb.
They could have tased him again and or used alternate weapons.
But if you believe they shot him becuase he was violent in the past then well you are part of the problem.
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That is BS and you know it
Himself out after the curfew too, so breaking the law.
Underage, crossing state lines, breaking a curfew. Thats even before shooting 3 people
d34noj
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Out of curiosity, how old are you?
Why does that matter? Let me guess so you can call me immature or some dumb point to justify your own silly take.
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