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Apologies if I offend, but this is very ignorant.
In all sincerity, while banning firearms is almost certainly not likely in the foreseeable future, it is fair to say that the general response in the US is utterly absurd.

In fact, I would suggest it is bordering on reckless. Clearly there are those who do support legislation, but as an outsider the overall response makes me cringe.

You only have to look at the number of mass-shootings, homicides with firearms and crimes with a firearm; compare them with nations with similar % of firearms.

Look at the response after many of these mass crimes: blame the police... blame the state... blame mental health. Why not simply blame the use of firearms?

That's not focusing on yourself and your post if that is how it may come across. Rather, as a person outside of the US the lack of action is incredibly frustrating.
 
In all sincerity, while banning firearms is almost certainly not likely in the foreseeable future, it is fair to say that the general response in the US is utterly absurd.

In fact, I would suggest it is bordering on reckless. Clearly there are those who do support legislation, but as an outsider the overall response makes me cringe.

You only have to look at the number of mass-shootings, homicides with firearms and crimes with a firearm; compare them with nations with similar % of firearms.

Look at the response after many of these mass crimes: blame the police... blame the state... blame mental health. Why not simply blame the use of firearms?

That's not focusing on yourself and your post if that is how it may come across. Rather, as a person outside of the US the lack of action is incredibly frustrating.

The lack of action is indeed frustrating. The NRA has a stranglehold on the country much like big tobacco used to have. Because a supreme court justice long ago interpreted the constitution a certain way on a very weirdly worded amendment, we are where we are. The NRA won the war that day.
 
The lack of action is indeed frustrating. The NRA has a stranglehold on the country much like big tobacco used to have. Because a supreme court justice long ago interpreted the constitution a certain way on a very weirdly worded amendment, we are where we are. The NRA won the war that day.
What I fail to understand however, is that the 2nd amendment is what it says - an amendment. Therefore, why can't there be further amendments?
 
What I fail to understand however, is that the 2nd amendment is what it says - an amendment. Therefore, why can't there be further amendments?

Article 5 of the constitution requires 2/3 of both the house and senate to make an amendment. At a federal level I don't think we could get 2/3 of congress to agree on anything.

States can and have passed varying levels of gun control, but some states will 100% stand by the NRA.
 
Article 5 of the constitution requires 2/3 of both the house and senate to make an amendment. At a federal level I don't think we could get 2/3 of congress to agree on anything.

States can and have passed varying levels of gun control, but some states will 100% stand by the NRA.
And after the amendment is made it has to be approved by 3/4ths of the state legislatures which also is never happening
 
the solution is so simple, and proven elsewhere in the world (UK, Australia, Norway etc).

Ban all guns = thousands of lives saved.

the rate of US deaths due to guns is actually at civil war levels.

Considering you can legally buy certain types of firearms in the UK I dont agree.

Banning handguns in the UK has proven banning doesn't work as there was a mass shooting involving rifles and shotguns in Cumbria a few years back.

The solution is the following:

1. Proper licensing

2. Mandatory use of gun safes

Banning does not work, if handguns were legal in the UK I would argue not one further mass shooting would have occured than what has with them banned as proper licensing and vetting as kept them out the hands of the wrong people (legally).
 
Multiple casualties apparently. The frequency of these type of attacks seems to be increasing in recent times.

Which of course is completely unrelated to Trump's inflammatory comments about people he doesn't like..
 
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