Sure, you're a good example of the type of person that makes an American go "These people are nuts, I'm sick of it, I'm joining the NRA to spite ilikecheese."
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Sure, you're a good example of the type of person that makes an American go "These people are nuts, I'm sick of it, I'm joining the NRA to spite ilikecheese."
How so? I don't support repealing the 2nd amendment. Supporting gun control measures in no way an extreme view.
Supporting the stance that nothing is negotiable is a very extreme position.
But I am the crazy one here.
yes it is. although I would think a country which claims to be a developed nation would value the lives of children a bit higher.
You say "claims to be" as though it is in doubt. It isn't. But your view regarding impact on children is certainly a big part of the national discussion.
I'm not sure if you're extreme or not. I think you're somewhat like Trump, who uses stigmatization and demonization but I'm not sure his heart is in it. So, extreme and absurd in rhetoric, but who knows what substance underlies that.
But the point is the same, I wouldn't expect the average person who sees your stuff to look past the bluster.
In my opinion, any country where a large proportion of citizens place the desire to own a gun above the safety of their children is not a developed nation.
Are you objecting to being referred to as an extremist? While it may seem over the top, it is an accurate descriptor. While we usually see that term used to describe terrorists, it certainly is not an inaccurate way to describe the NRA...and those that share their opinion with regards to the 2nd Amendment.
My perfect world of gun control measures would include background checks and licencing (eye test, written test, and skills test) for both purchase and usage. Something that would need to be renewed on a relatively frequent basis (every 4 years?). Single shot semi auto assault weapons would be made very difficult to get.
I am not in favor of age restrictions for usage, I think that should be merit based. If a 12 year old can pass the requirements for a license then ok. Perhaps minors would need to be relicensed on a more frequent basis...annually probably.
That's what I got off the top of my head. It certainly isn't infringing on 2nd Amendent rights it just regulates the militia.
Ok, although taking a very subjective conclusion and deeming it the determinative factor in whether one of the world's leaders in...everything...is "developed" seems a bit silly.
As I said, once you scratch through the hysterical "they're terrorists" surface, there is probably some sensible thinking somewhere in there. But most people won't see it, they'll just see "OMG you're like totally a terrorist" and then they'll run to the embracing arms of the NRA.
I personally don't care about being labeled "extremist" despite my belief it is pretty inaccurate. I'm more annoyed that we can't get beyond banal slogans to discuss the actual dynamics of the gun control debate. Interestingly, I think you're concerned that if you recognize that there is probably some amount of underlying merit to the NRA's fear campaign, it'll open the door to a bunch of defensive posturing. In other words, you've got a crack in the dam approach to the NRA's crack in the dam approach.
And "it just regulates the militia" isn't the law.
Oh I have no doubt that there is some merit in their fears, but I am not concerned about their fears. They stand for the profits for gun makers not for the well being of Americans.
My proposal was a pie in the sky proposal. I don't think we'd ever actually get that far. That said I don't think it's an extreme view.
In Justice Scalia's interpretation you are correct. I think he took a massive leap in his interpretation.
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Yeah... no...
Unless you're VERY generous with the term "leaders" in certain areas
Well, that's the entire point. The NRA's philosophy that a crack in the dam will weaken the dam itself is a meritorious, if still exaggerated, idea. You've fought me on this for days, for no apparent reason.
I don't think your proposal is terribly extreme, although if it involves the de facto registration and monitoring of all gun owners in the country through, that'll be viewed as extreme.
We all have our various opinions on SCOTUS precedent, but Heller and McDonald are the law of the land all the same.
I'm exaggerating (but not by much).
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