Current Affairs The " another shooting in America " thread

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SerenityNigh said:
300,000,000 guns and people

And something like households that exceed the average have like 17 per house

My parents have probably a dozen, almost all hunting rifles and shotguns. But nothing like the automatic rifles you see on the news. But these nut jobs often have a dozen+ of the assault rifle sort.
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yup, left out three '0's by mistake.
I've no problems with hunting guns, not sure they need 12 but thats beside the point.
It's all just messed up. There needs to be proper gun laws and proper health care.
 
Ruairi77 said:
yup, left out three '0's by mistake.
I've no problems with hunting guns, not sure they need 12 but thats beside the point.
It's all just messed up. There needs to be proper gun laws and proper health care.
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It's actually quite easy to accumulate a large "arsenal" of hunting guns. Maybe you had one passed down from a relative. Maybe you have one you hunted with as a kid, or before you got a good job, but you bought a better one. Different sizes and types are better for different types of hunting (deer, squirrel, duck, turkey; in a wooded area, in open and expansive areas like South and West Texas). Maybe your wife wants to hunt sometimes but needs a smaller gun. Maybe your kids hunt(ed) and you have kid sizes for them. Maybe some seasons or states have different rules on how much your gun can hold before reloading, and it may be easier to pick up another gun than change out your choke between hunting trips. The last point is probably the most salient: the low cost and ease of purchase of a weapon in the US is bewildering. If there's anything that merits discussion of Pigovian taxes, guns are in the discussion (fuel consumption is the other obvious choice; the US already killed smoking with such taxes).
 
Those poor, poor people.

There will probably be an uptick in gun sales today as some prepare just in case new rules are drafted. Each of which will make it more likely someone in that home will be killed with them through accident, suicide or murder.

Ruairi77 said:
I think there is roughly one gun per person, about 300,000
but get this, the average US home has 8 guns. To skew the average like that there must be some private people out there with enormous arsenals.
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Two neighbours got into a bad argument and one got a restraining order on the other so he had to temporarily get rid of his guns. Needed a U haul truck to move them as his regular truck wasn't big enough for all of them.

The vast majority of people are wonderful
 
roydo said:
We find it incredible, a lot of Mericans think its incredible that we do.

And when the NRA lobs $30m at a presidents campaign kitty, well, square that circle and you might be half way there.
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Rhetoric from the NRA is most discomfiting, yet very effective. "You need to get a (better) weapon to protect yourself from crazy/dangerous/black people." "You need to be careful because the Government/politicians/libtards/snowflakes want to take away your guns." "You need to get these guns now before it's illegal to own them."
 
DanEFC92 said:
Shameful. It’ll keep happening though.



Thoughts and prayers etc etc
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Before that, Columbine. Hard to tell whether Pearl Jam was prescient or potentially instigatory. Before that, the President was shot from close range. And that's just since I've been alive. There's no political will to move this along (except from small, fractured and radical positions), and there's no rhetoric or conversation for the average American to have.
 
SerenityNigh said:
It's actually quite easy to accumulate a large "arsenal" of hunting guns. Maybe you had one passed down from a relative. Maybe you have one you hunted with as a kid, or before you got a good job, but you bought a better one. Different sizes and types are better for different types of hunting (deer, squirrel, duck, turkey; in a wooded area, in open and expansive areas like South and West Texas). Maybe your wife wants to hunt sometimes but needs a smaller gun. Maybe your kids hunt(ed) and you have kid sizes for them. Maybe some seasons or states have different rules on how much your gun can hold before reloading, and it may be easier to pick up another gun than change out your choke between hunting trips. The last point is probably the most salient: the low cost and ease of purchase of a weapon in the US is bewildering. If there's anything that merits discussion of Pigovian taxes, guns are in the discussion (fuel consumption is the other obvious choice; the US already killed smoking with such taxes).
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Yup, I know people with loads here in the north east, just different to where I grew up, rural Ireland where my dad had a shot gun and so did my grandfather but there's no way they would have more than one or two hunting guns in the house. Just a different mindset.
 
These events bring the absurdity of the US gun laws into focus but in reality every day in cities across the US there are hundreds of gun murders. We've completely accepted it. Shameful
 
Multiple hoaxes and misinformation out there
https://www.buzzfeed.com/amphtml/ry...l-the-hoaxes-being-spread-about-the-las-vegas
4. This account is circulating a photo of Mesut Özil, a German soccer player who plays for Arsenal.
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The account spreading it appears to be a UK-based fan account for Chelsea Football Club.

 
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