Current Affairs The Andrew Tate thread

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

you started it, Neil. You wrote: "I would suggest these issues are becoming centrist and generally accepted."

I asked what issues?


I'll answer then:

- promoting a shift away from Eurocentricity, which it defines as "white male patriarchal supremacy".
- Defining 'racial equity' as acknowledging that white people have the monopoly on unfair affirmative action.
- reduce police presence during 'protests'.
- generally defunding police.
- use and promotion of language like "non-binary".
- promotion of bias in science (if justified by ideological reasons).
- abolishing jails & immigrant centres.
- promotion of 'diversity'.


These are all Far Left issues, and are being promoted and pushed by The Establishment. When publications criticise promotion of such ideas (like Toby Young's Daily Sceptic) Paypal banned them from their platform.


In the digital age, the gatekeepers of the world-wide-web are The Establishment. They are Google, Amazon, Paypal, Wikimedia etc. They influence global policy, they influence even individual thinking.

And they veer quite leftwards.

Ohhhhh man.

I think the Google thing you refer to is the inclusive language assist feature.

Judging by the backlash it's not really a 'centrist' position. It's arguably a well meaning but flawed feature that has got some absolute piss babies in a flap.

Which appears to be what constitutes an unfortunately influential number of the right these days: absolute piss babies getting angry at stuff that really doesn't have a material effect on their lives. "Some bloke down the road wants to wear a dress and be known as Sharon and bloody Google backs him. Grrrrr".

Have at it, we've got material inequalities to worry about. Important stuff.

'Kin culture wars. Go find something better to cry about, you disingenuous Ferrets. We all know such carping is to wind up idiots and distract from the real problems people face.

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Ohhhhh man.

I think the Google thing you refer to is the inclusive language assist feature.

Judging by the backlash it's not really a 'centrist' position. It's arguably a well meaning but flawed feature that has got some absolute piss babies in a flap.

Which appears to be what constitutes an unfortunately influential number of the right these days: absolute piss babies getting angry at stuff that really doesn't have a material effect on their lives. "Some bloke down the road wants to wear a dress and be known as Sharon and bloody Google backs him. Grrrrr".

Have at it, we've got material inequalities to worry about. Important stuff.

'Kin culture wars. Go find something better to cry about, you disingenuous Ferrets. We all know such carping is to wind up idiots and distract from the real problems people face.

Spot on, mate, absolutely right.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Spot on, mate, absolutely right.

Honestly, when I see and hear a lot of the Tory party making a huge issue about stuff like this, you just know it is not for any good reason. It's the new immigration. Some imagined enemy is going to come and take something from you. Be afraid.

In this case mono-gender toilets. Grrr.

 

[dholliday]

A. Defunding the police was held on a few signs, but that’s about it.

Defunding the police is a well-known policy of Establishment-backed Organisation BLM, an organisation generally regarded as being of the Left.

It's also a policy being funded by Wikipedia donations.

However, our right-wing conservative governments have closed over 200 police stations.

Source?

You realise we're talking about US politics, right?

B. Someone asking to be called by a certain set of pronouns hurts literally no one, and makes that person feel that little bit more comfortable.

I have no opinion on it. It's merely identified as a Far Left issue being funded by Wikipedia donations, which feeds into my own observation that The Establishment bends leftwards these days.

C. Listing diversity as a problem is a bit of a self-report.

Who did that?

The promotion of diversity is merely identified as a Far Left issue being funded by Wikipedia donations, which feeds into my own observation that The Establishment bends leftwards these days.

 

[PKwalnuts]

You know what I always find strange, that we have had an ever increasingly right wing government for the best part of 10 years, and yet anyone reading some of these posts, would believe we were being blindly led into a new world order by an uber left establishment.

How do you get to that place where your right wing leanings are still not satisfied by what the last decade has brought

Baffles me

 

[Bohemian Toffee]

Honestly, when I see and hear a lot of the Tory party making a huge issue about stuff like this, you just know it is not for any good reason. It's the new immigration. Some imagined enemy is going to come and take something from you. Be afraid.

In this case mono-gender toilets. Grrr.

Absolutely, invent-a-gripe. The same us and them nonsense that has been so effective for so long.

Few years back I was in a room with train drivers, listening to their gripes about their working diagrams. Mention was made of a Daily Mail headline about LGBT rights and an unchallenged assumption that "we were going to hell in a handcart". One driver spoke up, of his brother's experience coming out and the entire room feel silent.

It's amazing when the demonised become human, when they become brothers, sisters, our children.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Defunding the police is a well-known policy of Establishment-backed Organisation BLM, an organisation generally regarded as being of the Left.

It's also a policy being funded by Wikipedia donations.



Source?

You realise we're talking about US politics, right?


I have no opinion on it. It's merely identified as a Far Left issue being funded by Wikipedia donations, which feeds into my own observation that The Establishment bends leftwards these days.


Who did that?

The promotion of diversity is merely identified as a Far Left issue being funded by Wikipedia donations, which feeds into my own observation that The Establishment bends leftwards these days.

1. Black Lives Matter is a protest movement, not an organisation.

2. I don’t know for the US, but that is a correct statistic in the UK. I’m not digging out a source for you because frankly I have more important things to do.

3. You’re complaining about Non-Binary pronouns, so I’d guess you probably do have a problem with it.

4. See 3, but replace “Non-Binary pronouns” with “Diversity”.

 

[dholliday]

Ohhhhh man.

I think the Google thing you refer to is the inclusive language assist feature.

Judging by the backlash it's not really a 'centrist' position. It's arguably a well meaning but flawed feature that has got some absolute piss babies in a flap.

Which appears to be what constitutes an unfortunately influential number of the right these days: absolute piss babies getting angry at stuff that really doesn't have a material effect on their lives. "Some bloke down the road wants to wear a dress and be known as Sharon and bloody Google backs him. Grrrrr".

Have at it, we've got material inequalities to worry about. Important stuff.

'Kin culture wars. Go find something better to cry about, you disingenuous Ferrets. We all know such carping is to wind up idiots and distract from the real problems people face.

eh?

luvvie, all i said was that The Establishment, which is nowadays basically Big Tech, bend leftie. And to back that up, I presented a list of recognisably-leftie issues which are being funded by Wikipedia donations (which are supposed to be politically-neutral).

I'm not offering an opinion or judgement on each of these issues...just merely observing that they are evidence of establishmentleftism...which @neil999 disagreed with.


And here we now are, creating Strawmen who don't like these issues lol


But establishmentleftism is deffo a thing now...whether that's good or bad i guess is a further debate probably best had in our Current Affairs subforum.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

eh?

luvvie, all i said was that The Establishment, which is nowadays basically Big Tech, bend leftie. And to back that up, I presented a list of recognisably-leftie issues which are being funded by Wikipedia donations (which are supposed to be politically-neutral).

I'm not offering an opinion or judgement on each of these issues...just merely observing that they are evidence of establishmentleftism...which @neil999 disagreed with.


And here we now are, creating Strawmen who don't like these issues lol


But establishmentleftism is deffo a thing now...whether that's good or bad i guess is a further debate probably best had in our Current Affairs subforum.

Hi Holliday. I genuinely think you're alright and I don't want to be seen to giving you flak like a lot do on here.

But, you don't half talk some waffle sometimes lol xxx

 

[Amw79]

You know what I always find strange, that we have had an ever increasingly right wing government for the best part of 10 years, and yet anyone reading some of these posts, would believe we were being blindly led into a new world order by an uber left establishment.

How do you get to that place where your right wing leanings are still not satisfied by what the last decade has brought

Baffles me

Correct.

I, for one, am utterly fed up of hearing about the ‘left wing media’, and the ‘liberal elite’ or the ‘liberal narrative’, when this country has been under increasingly right wing Tory rule for the last 12 years, and we’ve seen the political discussion move further and further to the right.

All this, while the most popular newspapers in the country are right wing bought and owned.

Sorry to use modern-speak, but we’re being completely gaslit that there exists a liberal elite with any sort of power, hard or soft, when the reality is we’ve been driven down a hard right pothole for over a decade, and the country is an absolute sh!thole to show for it.

 

[dholliday]

1. Black Lives Matter is a protest movement, not an organisation.

it is both. and both are generally recognised as being of the Left and supported by The Establishment.

2. I don’t know for the US, but that is a correct statistic in the UK. I’m not digging out a source for you because frankly I have more important things to do.

So what's the relevance of your point then?

3. You’re complaining about Non-Binary pronouns, so I’d guess you probably do have a problem with it.

Where was I complaining about it?

4. See 3, but replace “Non-Binary pronouns” with “Diversity”.

Where was i complaining about it?

 

[ChesterBlue]

it is both. and both are generally recognised as being of the Left and supported by The Establishment.



So what's the relevance of your point then?


Where was I complaining about it?


Where was i complaining about it?

Bored

 

[Goat]

Hi Holliday. I genuinely think you're alright and I don't want to be seen to giving you flak like a lot do on here.

But, you don't half talk some waffle sometimes lol xxx

Sometimes?

 

[dholliday]

Hi Holliday. I genuinely think you're alright and I don't want to be seen to giving you flak like a lot do on here.

But, you don't half talk some waffle sometimes lol xxx

i just enjoy a good old-fashioned debate with those who have different views.

flak is fine x

Correct.

I, for one, am utterly fed up of hearing about the ‘left wing media’, and the ‘liberal elite’ or the ‘liberal narrative’, when this country has been under increasingly right wing Tory rule for the last 12 years, and we’ve seen the political discussion move further and further to the right.

All this, while the most popular newspapers in the country are right wing bought and owned.

Sorry to use modern-speak, but we’re being completely gaslit that there exists a liberal elite with any sort of power, hard or soft, when the reality is we’ve been driven down a hard right pothole for over a decade, and the country is an absolute sh!thole to show for it.

Do you agree with the following:

1) Big Tech is now The Establishment? TE defined as: have most influence on global political policies, corporation agenda direction, cultural trends and even individual thinking.

2) Do you agree Big Tech politically-bend broadly more Left than Right?

 

[Amw79]

i just enjoy a good old-fashioned debate with those who have different views.

flak is fine x




Do you agree with the following:

1) Big Tech is now The Establishment? TE defined as: have most influence on global political policies, corporation agenda direction, cultural trends and even individual thinking.

2) Do you agree Big Tech politically-bend broadly more Left than Right?

No