Yes he did. He equated -7 to current Donald Trump extremism. The middle is 0. So swinging the dial all the way the other way is +7 back to the middle, which is to repeat the levels of extremism Donald Trump has undertaken just to get back to the middle.
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Yes he did. He equated -7 to current Donald Trump extremism. The middle is 0. So swinging the dial all the way the other way is +7 back to the middle, which is to repeat the levels of extremism Donald Trump has undertaken just to get back to the middle.
dead_soft
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Moving from the far right to the middle isn't extremism.
Going from the Nazi Party to New Labour wouldn't mean New Labour is an extremist party.
That's why World War 2 occurred, because it was impossible to remove the Nazis from power and it got to the point where war was the only outcome.
Not the same thing. That's a false equivalence.
dead_soft
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What? Odd comment.
It wasn't a false equivalence it was a comparison that says that moving from far-right to centrism isn't extremism.
Shevin Keedy
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We do not necessarily "need" to, as you put it. There is however a video interview with Chewbaca Jamiroquai Yellowstone doing the rounds that I heartily recommend giving an ear to. Like Tubey, he has a very refreshing perspective on these matters.
Think of it this way.
A car going from 0-100mph in 10 seconds isn't going to be able to hit the breaks when it reaches it's destination and could slam into a wall. That's akin to "swinging the dial" too far at once.
If a car goes at a steady pace instead, it can arrive and park safely without hitting that wall.
My point is if you tried to take the whole lot right now, right away, you "hit that brick wall", because you encourage the rise of what led to Trump in the first place and it risks repeating history in 4-8 years. If you take 8 years to wash away Trumpism, you do it properly and sustainably.
If that makes me "mad", so be it. But yes, I fully believe what I'm saying here is sensible, because it takes into account what has happened and, critically, is an attempt to ensure it doesn't happen again. Trump just got one of the highest levels of electoral vote ever; that base isn't going to go away easily, it needs to be gradually eroded.
davek
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I can easily see now a mass based 'Patriot' (fascist) Party taking root in mainstream American politics. A political party needs a base, and any such party would have it to exploit. The Republicans will be the loser in that formation, at least in the short term. I know that Covid19 plays a huge part in all this, but the seeds of a fascist party have been growing for years before the virus and it isn't going to go away, unfortunately. And I dont think the will is there amongst American mainstream politics (liberals and conservative Republicans) to do what needs to be done: deny fascists space, criminalise them, lock them up and / or eliminate them if they kick off with armed insurrection with some neu Freikorps BS militia.
You cant live in the same space as these creatures. They have to be dealt with, or they'll deal with you - mercilessly.
You cant live in the same space as these creatures. They have to be dealt with, or they'll deal with you - mercilessly.
tsubaki
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not the best example this, given Charlottesville and what happened at several protests this summer
Do love it when @dead_soft and @Tubey have a current affairs battle.
I’m on team @dead_soft btw. Although I do admire Tubey’s steadfast refusal to buckle.
Reminds me of Ali vs Frazier
I’m on team @dead_soft btw. Although I do admire Tubey’s steadfast refusal to buckle.
Reminds me of Ali vs Frazier
Shevin Keedy
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Bizarre analogy Tubey.
DanEFC92
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Middle of next week, when he's going the week after. All after the horse has bolted this.
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