Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election
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carolinablue232
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They all just need to grow the hell up tbh.
they were also courting independents and moderate republicans, nut yea, I meant to add ‘continue‘
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-...political-economic-divide/?preview_id=1184057
They only ever were courting moderate Dems, and they were very good at it.
Lincoln Project brings in massive fundraising haul ahead of Election Day
The Lincoln Project raised a whopping $39 million from July through September, helping fuel its anti-Trump ad blitz.www.opensecrets.org
Shhhh
this is keeping me from sitting in a corner, rocking
Because I'm a brainwashed idiot, I'm certain that the NYT reporters are lying and they didn't actually contact election officials from both parties. That's because I don't think for myself and instead use maliciously distorted, misinformation-spreaders as my source of information to form my views. I also think that pizzagate is real because it was generally endorsed by Fox News.
But hey-ho, let's do another introspective, self-indulgent, intellectual piece on why the left and Democrats actually lost this election (despite winning it). Because, you know, it's only superficial summary statistics about employment rates, stock markets, and county-wide GDP output that matter. Nevermind the easily documented disinformation campaign committed by or enabled by Republicans on the American people.
But hey-ho, let's do another introspective, self-indulgent, intellectual piece on why the left and Democrats actually lost this election (despite winning it). Because, you know, it's only superficial summary statistics about employment rates, stock markets, and county-wide GDP output that matter. Nevermind the easily documented disinformation campaign committed by or enabled by Republicans on the American people.
abelard
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I don't.
They weren't effective though, except as a form of self-indulgent therapy for liberals. Not a single prominent Republican up for re-election abandoned the ship. Trump increased his share of the vote among Republicans.
But to be fair, if the mark is enjoying giggling along too much to notice they're the mark then arguably it's a service, not a con.
abelard
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As Trump Gained Latino Support in Florida, Biden’s Campaign Ignored Warnings
Members of the Democrat’s community-outreach team say that the effort was underfunded, unfocussed, and ineffective.
On October 29th, Chris Wills, the Hispanic vote director for Joe Biden in South Florida, sent an e-mail to the campaign’s leadership, with the subject line “WE ARE ON TRACK TO LOSE FLORIDA.” In Miami-Dade County, a liberal stronghold, Republicans were ahead of Democrats in turnout by six per cent among early voters and held a lead among Latinos of eight per cent. If immediate action was not taken, Wills warned, Biden would fail to gain the level of support that Hillary Clinton had won, in 2016, in the state’s most populous county. “There is still time to get our vote out,” Wills wrote. “If the response continues to be excuses, the statement made in my subject line will become a reality.” His direct supervisors, members of the campaign’s national leadership and the state director, Jackie Lee, were copied on the e-mail. No one responded. Two days later, with less than forty-eight hours of early voting left, Wills followed up with a second message. “The Republicans wiped out another 40,594 votes from our lead,” he wrote. “Nothing different is being done in our state to change our trajectory towards a loss.” It, too, went unanswered.
On November 3rd, Donald Trump carried Florida by nearly four hundred thousand votes, more than twice the margin that he received in 2016. Four years after Clinton won Miami-Dade by thirty percentage points, Biden performed dismally—beating Trump by only seven per cent. Democrats lost two House seats, along with key races at the county and state levels. To the shock of many Democrats, Trump improved his standing in Miami-Dade in majority Latino, Black, and white precincts alike. Exit polls showed that he won roughly fifty-five per cent of the Cuban-American vote, thirty per cent of the Puerto Rican vote, and forty-eight per cent among myriad other Latino diasporas. Wills was shattered by the results but not surprised. For months, he had been pleading for help. Wills and his fiancée, Daniela Ferrera, a campaign volunteer, have blamed the campaign’s state leadership for contributing to Biden’s disastrous performance in Florida.
Wills, who is thirty-eight, shared Ferrera’s opposition to Trump’s divisiveness and was keen to help Democrats make inroads with the state’s young Cuban voters, who were seen as being more liberal than their parents. A Florida political operative, he believed that the former Vice-President could turn Florida blue. But, after three months working on Biden’s campaign, he grew disenchanted with the state leadership’s field operation and its apparent disregard for the Latino electorate. “It was clear that the resources for the Hispanic team were an afterthought,” Wills told me. “They spat on us, trampled on us, and ran over us.”
...In an October 15th e-mail, Millie Raphael, a Biden Latino-outreach associate, asked Lee, the Florida state director, for two things: “surrogates” and “a budget.” Raphael argued that the Latino vote in the state could not be won over Zoom. After working on Andrew Gillum’s gubernatorial campaign, in 2018, she recognized that Biden could not win in Florida without greater support from Latinos, who make up seventeen per cent of the state’s eligible voters. Raphael warned that she could not “overstate” the amount of “resentment” that the lack of resources and support was causing among Latino field workers. “The members of your Hispanic team and our grassroots leaders have gone out of pocket financially to accomplish the excitement seen on the streets,” she wrote. “I came aboard this campaign because I knew I could deliver the South Florida Puerto Rican vote. I never imagined that I would be hamstrung in my attempts to accomplish this endeavor.”
It is increasingly clear that in the swing states, the election was won by the very grassroots progressive activists who mediocre corporate Democrats are frantically attempting to blame for their own incompetence; who, unlike in Florida, knew better than to rely on the Party for funding or support; and who essentially did the Biden campaign's job for them.
The people who run the Democratic Party (and we should probably stop calling it that because it is in essence a fundraising pyramid rather than an organised political structure) do not understand and arguably do not care to understand how electoral politics works in America. Many of them undoubtedly prefer not to win elections because with power comes responsibilities for which they are utterly ill-equipped, and they can fund-raise much more lucratively in opposition (Yes, we voted almost unanimously to expand Trump's military budget and surveillance powers BUT HE'S A FASCIST RUSSIAN PUPPET AND DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS!!!! Gets 'em every time, and with Democrat voters you don't even have to pretend like you believe it).
They've managed to blow the easiest Senate map in a decade and, impossibly, have somehow lost ground in the House running against a depression, a pandemic and the least popular President since Harding. They are going to be routed in the midterms and will likely go into 2024 saddled to a candidate so unpopular that she didn't dare face the electorate of her own party, sputtering reheated Russian conspiracy drivel and corporate HR wokespeak against a competent, disciplined populist who will further raid the 'ethnic' voter base that Democrats do not understand and take for granted by campaigning on patriotism and ersatz working-class solidarity.
Sassy Colombian
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"Nate Cohn, an expert on polling for The New York Times, knows that the predictions for the 2016 presidential election were bad. But this year, he says, they were even worse."
Michael Barbara's the daily had a great segment yesterday regarding polling. It seems they were very wrong about a lot, specially when it came to white voters and Latino's support of Biden. The one constituent that they got right, and made a great difference this cycle, was suburban voters. It was them who propelled Biden to the presidency.
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As Trump Gained Latino Support in Florida, Biden’s Campaign Ignored Warnings
Members of the Democrat’s community-outreach team say that the effort was underfunded, unfocussed, and ineffective.www.newyorker.com
On October 29th, Chris Wills, the Hispanic vote director for Joe Biden in South Florida, sent an e-mail to the campaign’s leadership, with the subject line “WE ARE ON TRACK TO LOSE FLORIDA.” In Miami-Dade County, a liberal stronghold, Republicans were ahead of Democrats in turnout by six per cent among early voters and held a lead among Latinos of eight per cent. If immediate action was not taken, Wills warned, Biden would fail to gain the level of support that Hillary Clinton had won, in 2016, in the state’s most populous county. “There is still time to get our vote out,” Wills wrote. “If the response continues to be excuses, the statement made in my subject line will become a reality.” His direct supervisors, members of the campaign’s national leadership and the state director, Jackie Lee, were copied on the e-mail. No one responded. Two days later, with less than forty-eight hours of early voting left, Wills followed up with a second message. “The Republicans wiped out another 40,594 votes from our lead,” he wrote. “Nothing different is being done in our state to change our trajectory towards a loss.” It, too, went unanswered.
On November 3rd, Donald Trump carried Florida by nearly four hundred thousand votes, more than twice the margin that he received in 2016. Four years after Clinton won Miami-Dade by thirty percentage points, Biden performed dismally—beating Trump by only seven per cent. Democrats lost two House seats, along with key races at the county and state levels. To the shock of many Democrats, Trump improved his standing in Miami-Dade in majority Latino, Black, and white precincts alike. Exit polls showed that he won roughly fifty-five per cent of the Cuban-American vote, thirty per cent of the Puerto Rican vote, and forty-eight per cent among myriad other Latino diasporas. Wills was shattered by the results but not surprised. For months, he had been pleading for help. Wills and his fiancée, Daniela Ferrera, a campaign volunteer, have blamed the campaign’s state leadership for contributing to Biden’s disastrous performance in Florida.
Wills, who is thirty-eight, shared Ferrera’s opposition to Trump’s divisiveness and was keen to help Democrats make inroads with the state’s young Cuban voters, who were seen as being more liberal than their parents. A Florida political operative, he believed that the former Vice-President could turn Florida blue. But, after three months working on Biden’s campaign, he grew disenchanted with the state leadership’s field operation and its apparent disregard for the Latino electorate. “It was clear that the resources for the Hispanic team were an afterthought,” Wills told me. “They spat on us, trampled on us, and ran over us.”
...In an October 15th e-mail, Millie Raphael, a Biden Latino-outreach associate, asked Lee, the Florida state director, for two things: “surrogates” and “a budget.” Raphael argued that the Latino vote in the state could not be won over Zoom. After working on Andrew Gillum’s gubernatorial campaign, in 2018, she recognized that Biden could not win in Florida without greater support from Latinos, who make up seventeen per cent of the state’s eligible voters. Raphael warned that she could not “overstate” the amount of “resentment” that the lack of resources and support was causing among Latino field workers. “The members of your Hispanic team and our grassroots leaders have gone out of pocket financially to accomplish the excitement seen on the streets,” she wrote. “I came aboard this campaign because I knew I could deliver the South Florida Puerto Rican vote. I never imagined that I would be hamstrung in my attempts to accomplish this endeavor.”
It is increasingly clear that in the swing states, the election was won by the very grassroots progressive activists who mediocre corporate Democrats are frantically attempting to blame for their own incompetence; who, unlike in Florida, knew better than to rely on the Party for funding or support; and who essentially did the Biden campaign's job for them.
The people who run the Democratic Party (and we should probably stop calling it that because it is in essence a fundraising pyramid rather than an organised political structure) do not understand and arguably do not care to understand how electoral politics works in America. Many of them undoubtedly prefer not to win elections because with power comes responsibilities for which they are utterly ill-equipped, and they can fund-raise much more lucratively in opposition (Yes, we voted almost unanimously to expand Trump's military budget and surveillance powers BUT HE'S A FASCIST RUSSIAN PUPPET AND DEMOCRACY DIES IN DARKNESS!!!! Gets 'em every time, and with Democrat voters you don't even have to pretend like you believe it).
They've managed to blow the easiest Senate map in a decade and, impossibly, have somehow lost ground in the House running against a depression, a pandemic and the least popular President since Harding. They are going to be routed in the midterms and will likely go into 2024 saddled to a candidate so unpopular that she didn't dare face the electorate of her own party, sputtering reheated Russian conspiracy drivel and corporate HR wokespeak against a competent, disciplined populist who will further raid the 'ethnic' voter base that Democrats do not understand and take for granted by campaigning on patriotism and ersatz working-class solidarity.
So.. Blue party bad?
UptheTofees
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What has happened in Venezuela has made it very easy for any candidate in the continent to gain votes.
All they have to do is accuse the liberal side of being socialist and sprinkle the threat of the country ending up being a socialist government if they pick the other candidate.
Most people, without further research or knowledge, eat it up and vote conservative. Trump went from having very little support among South Americans to being the popular choice. Add Cubans to the mix and you have yourself a strong latino base in Florida.
abelard
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It's not quite that easy - after all, Obama won there twice.
I suspect his rapprochement with Cuba has hurt them, though it was absolutely the right thing to do and worth the political hit.
In 2020 the real problem was most likely that the Biden campaign did absolutely nothing to compete in Florida, and as usual, abandoned local organisers and get-out-the-vote initiatives until it was far too late. From the New Yorker article: "In Amandi’s view, the state Party committed “the cardinal sin of electoral politics in Florida with Hispanic voters,” allowing Trump supporters to define it as “the party of socialism and Communism." ”As absurd as it is for Republicans to call Democrats Communists, it’s more absurd for Democrats not to directly rebut that labelling, confront it or refute it, and overcome it.”
UptheTofees
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It's not quite that easy - after all, Obama won there twice.
I suspect his rapprochement with Cuba has hurt them, though it was absolutely the right thing to do and worth the political hit.
In 2020 the real problem was most likely that the Biden campaign did absolutely nothing to compete in Florida, and as usual, abandoned local organisers and get-out-the-vote initiatives until it was far too late. From the New Yorker article: "In Amandi’s view, the state Party committed “the cardinal sin of electoral politics in Florida with Hispanic voters,” allowing Trump supporters to define it as “the party of socialism and Communism." ”As absurd as it is for Republicans to call Democrats Communists, it’s more absurd for Democrats not to directly rebut that labelling, confront it or refute it, and overcome it.”
Yes
The party dropped the ball by not addressing the issue strongly. But things have changed demographically in Florida. First Obama was a unique candidate. He had charisma and appealed to minorities, including Latinos.
But most importantly, there are more Venezuelans and Colombians with the right to vote now and the right vs left division is even stronger in those countries than it is here.
Trump went out and supported Alvaro Uribe, then preceded to call Biden a Castro-Chavista. I knew he had the votes at that point.
The Democrats could have done much better to refute it but at the end of the day, the party represents the left and those 2 populations along with Cubans just don't want anything to do with anything representing left.
I fully expect Florida to trend red permanently going forward (Whites in rural areas, retirees, evangelicals, Cubans, and now Colombians and Venezuelans). Gonna be hard to turn it blue again.
abelard
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You might be right. That all makes sense, though there is always the caveat that things which make sense aren't generally associated with Florida ; )
Younger Latino voters however don't appear to share the same allegiances as their parents (or at least, not to the same degree). If the Democrats want to win their votes they could always try representing them for a change, by promising to fight for the policies they care about rather than scolding them and dismissing their ideas as childish and unrealistic.
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It really is astounding to me that ANYONE from Puerto Rico voted for Trump. He basically said they don't matter at all and gave them no aid after a major major storm. How the hell can ANYONE vote for that??
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