Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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Well it’s good to get clarity on that then. Now let’s file this in the gigantic Amazon sized warehouse under the title of ‘Everything Democrats claim is true and everything Republicans claim is false’. And move on to the next one.

No it's not a partisan issue - there was a truckload of evidence the Russian interference was real, and absolutely zero evidence voter fraud is real.

It's a false equivalence.
 
In an election of many firsts, it appears that surging youth turnout in a number of key states may have helped propel Joe Biden to victory.

Analysis suggests an increase of as much as 10% in youth voter turnout – with particularly high engagement in 11 key battleground states. That may have been game-changing for Joe Biden, who had the support of 61% of people aged 18-29.



Meanwhile, Justice Democrats and the Sunrise Movement commissioned an analysis of Democrats in swing districts who won and lost races, and it found that, in fact, supporters of Medicare for All did just fine relative to centrists. In fact, Democratic vote share declined for candidates the further they moved to the right.
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The problem you'll see moving forward if Biden goes hard left (which thankfully he won't) is that he won't have the "anyone but Trump" factor influencing the turnout.

That's the reason the "left" did well here - the more left you are, the more enthused you were to go out and vote against Trump. But what happens when Trump isn't a factor?

Basically nobody voted for Biden. Hence the wild celebrations when he won that were basically all about laughing directly at Trump.
 
Love your fellow Americans. Be them Republicans. Embrace them with open arms and care for them. Have empathy and forgive them. Give love.
It is hard to do that when the other side is not ready for such embracing, or willing to change their rhetorical about the election results.
 
No it's not a partisan issue - there was a truckload of evidence the Russian interference was real, and absolutely zero evidence voter fraud is real.

It's a false equivalence.

The only thing I’d add to this is that one of Trump’s tells is that he invariably accuses other people of things he’s doing himself, so there really could have been voter fraud in this election.

We already know what he did with the post, and what the GOP have been doing to suppress votes, so it’s not that much of a stretch from there to actually doing proper fraud (which GOP operatives have been convicted of in the recent past).
 
No it's not a partisan issue - there was a truckload of evidence the Russian interference was real, and absolutely zero evidence voter fraud is real.

It's a false equivalence.

I believe the Russians have always meddled in USA affairs directly and indirectly. It’s not a surprise. And there definitely as of yet no evidence of fraud. Then you have to factor in that Trump is a compulsive liar.

Haven’t said that it’s hard what to believe when both sides are right all the time.
 
It is hard to do that when the other side is not ready for such embracing, or willing to change their rhetorical about the election results.

Id say it can be hard. But there’s a good honest reason for the way things and people are and you can’t blame the people. It’s what they want. To blame the gays, the blacks the men the women, the settled and the travellers. Dem voters. Republicans. The progressives, the bigots. Love everybody as there’s a reason for why.
 
Id say it can be hard. But there’s a good honest reason for the way things and people are and you can’t blame the people. It’s what they want. To blame the gays, the blacks the men the women, the settled and the travellers. Dem voters. Republicans. The progressives, the bigots. Love everybody as there’s a reason for why.

What utter tripe. Absolutely intellectually and morally empty nonsense.

And let's not skip over 'the blacks' 'the gays' and then suggesting they are similar to bigots.
 
What utter tripe. Absolutely intellectually and morally empty nonsense.

And let's not skip over 'the blacks' 'the gays' and then suggesting they are similar to bigots.

no not at all please don’t think I am comparing the two are alike. I mean bigots and racist they are in a wrong place. It’s not right behaviour. But to not try embrace them and if you fight them the system wins just like the social divides let’s the system win
 
no not at all please don’t think I am comparing the two are alike. I mean bigots and racist they are in a wrong place. It’s not right behaviour. But to not try embrace them and if you fight them the system wins just like the social divides let’s the system win

Definitely fight bigots and racists.
 
Id say it can be hard. But there’s a good honest reason for the way things and people are and you can’t blame the people. It’s what they want. To blame the gays, the blacks the men the women, the settled and the travellers. Dem voters. Republicans. The progressives, the bigots. Love everybody as there’s a reason for why.
Believe me, I'm all about love and spreading more of it to all. I'm not blaming anyone, all I'm saying it is hard to love those who don't want to be loved. Moreover, some of these people have so much hatred in their heart that I could offer them an olive branch and they would spit on my face because I'm an immigrant and their racist hearts can see beyond that. I have lived in southern US long enough to have experienced their hate so it is not just up to us, such feelings of love and unity have to be reciprocal.
 
Believe me, I'm all about love and spreading more of it to all. I'm not blaming anyone, all I'm saying it is hard to love those who don't want to be loved. Moreover, some of these people have so much hatred in their heart that I could offer them an olive branch and they would spit on my face because I'm an immigrant and their racist hearts can see beyond that. I have lived in southern US long enough to have experienced their hate so it is not just up to us, such feelings of love and unity have to be reciprocal.

Yep it’s hard in practice. I myself get caught up I am not saying I’m Jesus. But in most cases in real life I try to turn the other cheek. Have pity on such a head space of ignorance these people are in.

Think of them like your pet cat. They are a victim of circumstances, they couldn’t be arsed about you but you love and feed them all the same.
 
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