Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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davek said:
He knows it's bleak for him with an extended vote. His objective now will be to get his paramilitaries on the streets threatening mass public disorder over "having the election stolen from him" and collapse the election through the courts.

It wont work.
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Always find it funny. If the postal vote went his way...he'd say he scared off the potential fraudsters and it was a victory for democracy.

He's bricking it now. Basically he's 2.1 up and there's 6mins of injury time, Biden has a penalty, so he wants the ref to blow the whistle.
 
Rook said:
the surrounding trash counties around Pittsburgh aren't counted fully yet either and they are even deeper in the tank for trump. I'd be pleasantly shocked if Biden wins PA but just don't see it.
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I mean proportions are important here. I'd also add, Biden is up a lot with white men, and we are now just counting early ballots, which were much more Democratic.

I think PA will be very close.
 
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We should have gone with Bernie, no way he would perform worse than this. Youngesters didnt even bother so it looks.
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No seriously mate, Sanders would have been decimated. Only reason Biden is in this race is because he's took some votes from the Trump base in terms of white/elderly.

Throw an all-out socialist in as Trump's opponent instead and it'd be a bloodbath - Trump would have painted him as Lenin and would have won comfortably.
 
catcherintherye said:
A few broader thoughts as I am posting a bit on the specifics.

The election is very open still. The fact it is, is a failing of Biden. To be leading the poll of polls by 8.4 going in to election day, and be going tgis life and death with Trump is a poor show. Polling is really out on this one as well. Like maybe 3 times as out as it was in 2016.

Trump is a campaigning collosus to be honest, To defy polls, especially outside of polling error to this degree is some going.

The other point, is it looks like Biden will win the popular vote by around 2% ish. If you would have told me yesterday, he wins the popular vote by 2% I'd have said Biden was done. Trump won the EC comfortably with a similar margin in 2016 and in truth the EC seemed to have shifted more to Trump. I felt if Trump got within 4, he would win, so you have seen something of a reargaurd action.

It's very hard to call, as you don't really know what ballots are due to be counted, from what areas etc, and the big margins of 87-99% for example is much too wide. As things stand, from what I can see, Biden has the slenderest leads in Nevada, Michigan and Wisconsin. This gets him 270. In general it look like early ballots will break for him, but it only needs a tiny break for Trump in just one of the above, and then Trump is in posession. He still has a shout at Georgia and Pennsylvania too.

So you have 5 states, all very much in play. Thats before any challenges that may occur in Florida or other tight races. It's probably the tightest race I've seen, and the most chaotic, which was certainly not the plan for Biden.
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That's the thing though innit, he's been campaigning for 4 years straight, rather than, you know, being an actual president.
 
Tubey said:
No seriously mate, Sanders would have been decimated. Only reason Biden is in this race is because he's took some votes from the Trump base in terms of white/elderly.

Throw an all-out socialist in as Trump's opponent instead and it'd be a bloodbath - Trump would have painted him as Lenin and would have won comfortably.
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who would be your perfect candidate then for the Dems?
 
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