Current Affairs The 2020 United States Presidential Election

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So why do you support him? Specifically?
I have always been interested in politics and often go against the grain...also I often find my self seeking deeper than what MSM gives us. Past 5 years have been incredibly interesting. It's absolutely crazy to see how keenly people get sucked into MSM propaganda. Both candidates are far from perfect but unfashionably i think that capitalism isnt as bad as people like to think. Also back any candidate who is for law and order. All those little Andy Tifas can get to you know where. Get my drift pal?
 
Both candidates are far from perfect but unfashionably i think that capitalism isnt as bad as people like to think. Also back any candidate who is for law and order. All those little Andy Tifas can get to you know where. Get my drift pal?
Ah, so you can't back the Democrats' 2020 "Destroy Capitalism and Rob Your Grandma" platform, eh?

What if we sweetened the deal with tax incentives and a pithy slogan on a hat?
 
Trumps economic policies are way better than Joes. Taxes are big thingy you know.
Taxes in the USA are bottomed out and you get what you pay for. If you relocated here you might be delighted that your lower taxes allowed you to buy a new bass boat or a pickup truck, or you might be disappointed if for some reason you required a modest medical procedure and a brief hospital stay and found yourself bankrupted. If you'd like to live in a casino, America may be for you.
 
I have always been interested in politics and often go against the grain...also I often find my self seeking deeper than what MSM gives us. Past 5 years have been incredibly interesting. It's absolutely crazy to see how keenly people get sucked into MSM propaganda. Both candidates are far from perfect but unfashionably i think that capitalism isnt as bad as people like to think. Also back any candidate who is for law and order. All those little Andy Tifas can get to you know where. Get my drift pal?
No not really. Doubt you do either. Thanks for the attempt at coherence though, pal.
 
Are the polls wider than 2016 or are they similar? Hilary was meant to be miles ahead wasn't she?

Polls are further apart, with less movement, less undecided and Biden consistently over 50% (which Hilary wasnt).

Hilary was ahead, but never as far ahead as this. Her lead tended to go between 2-6/7 during this stretch. Biden is currently +9.2.

On the flip, Trump is now the incumbent, so may see more late bounce than in 2016, and has shown once he can compound the polls (albeit by around 2%).

So some similarities and lots of differences.
 
Polls are further apart, with less movement, less undecided and Biden consistently over 50% (which Hilary wasnt).

Hilary was ahead, but never as far ahead as this. Her lead tended to go between 2-6/7 during this stretch. Biden is currently +9.2.

On the flip, Trump is now the incumbent, so may see more late bounce than in 2016, and has shown once he can compound the polls (albeit by around 2%).

So some similarities and lots of differences.
If you look at 538’s election forecast from 2016, Hillary actually was this far ahead when Comey wrote his horrifically ill advised letter and gave his press conference. The polls then tightened massively.


2016:
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2020:
D1AE1D29-8605-4E17-9DFC-6427BDD6D442.jpegthe biggest differences are the other ones you mentioned, the consistency and stability of the polls this time, and the fact that large numbers of them have Biden at or over 50% and that there were far more undecideds in 2016.
 
I have always been interested in politics and often go against the grain...also I often find my self seeking deeper than what MSM gives us. Past 5 years have been incredibly interesting. It's absolutely crazy to see how keenly people get sucked into MSM propaganda. Both candidates are far from perfect but unfashionably i think that capitalism isnt as bad as people like to think. Also back any candidate who is for law and order. All those little Andy Tifas can get to you know where. Get my drift pal?
So since you’re so avidly against the “mainstream media” boogeymen, would you care to share your sources of (presumably) vastly more reliable information that leads you to the complete opposite conclusions to the majority of observers?
 
So since you’re so avidly against the “mainstream media” boogeymen, would you care to share your sources of (presumably) vastly more reliable information that leads you to the complete opposite conclusions to the majority of observers?
I think it’s fair to look at any information through the lens of what biases particular channels and websites within the MSM possess. After all, even with its obvious faults, Fox News is still technically mainstream media. But to think you’re going to be able to go out and find the “real story” that the NBC’s and CBS’s of the world aren’t telling you on some YouTube channel is dumb.
 
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