The 2015 Popularity Contest (aka UK General Election )

Who will you be voting for?

  • Tory

    Votes: 38 9.9%

  • Diet Tory (Labour)

    Votes: 132 34.3%

  • Tory Zero (Greens)

    Votes: 44 11.4%

  • Extra Tory with lemon (UKIP)

    Votes: 40 10.4%

  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 9 2.3%

  • Other

    Votes: 31 8.1%

  • Cheese on toast

    Votes: 91 23.6%
  • Total voters
    385
  • Poll closed .
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Seanjd said:
Which were his valid points?
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One valid point that Farage made was Tourism health care in the NHS - ie that overseas people come here without a medical, and gain free hospital GP services as for the HIV point I thought that was uncalled for until today some caller on LBC sated that the Tories if realected would clamp down on the expensive drugs for this illness from new immigrants if re elected HIV included!
Also that if we are a member of the EU you will not stop freedom of movement as Mertle has stated its non negationable!
 
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Dymak said:
I agree mate. I'm not wanting to take immigrants' care packages off them, certainly not from those who need one anyway. But I am highlighting the reality with regards cost, the percentage/prevalence of immigrants that make up some council's social care cohorts, the fact that we might not have enough money to pay for it all, and that our offer wouldn't be reciprocated if we emigrated to an immigrant's country of birth and requested the same service. They WOULD laugh in our face and tell us to go home.

I also see absolutely no logic whatsoever in accepting another country's criminals. Providing free methadone to immigrant heroin addicts is ridiculous, imo.
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Providing methadone to any heroin addicts is ridiculous, it's awful stuff, but that's a whole other argument.
 
davek said:
How does someone working class vote Tory? I know it goes on and there's droves of them.

Just never been able to get my head around that Uncle Tom and Aunt Jemima mindset.
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I was speaking to a local council worker the other day who was going on about voting Tory because they've reduced the deficit.

Not that she'll probably be out of a job 6 months in to their term, it's the deficit that matters of course.
 
Joey66 said:
One valid point that Farage made was Tourism health care in the NHS
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Scaremongering.

Immigrants are only able to use NHS services for free is they are exempt, i.e. if they are working and contributing by paying taxes just like you or I.

The so-called NHS tourism accounts for 0.06% of the NHS budget, yet Farage brings it up at the first opportunity when the NHS is discussed. There are so many other issues with the NHS which should take priority buy sadly he is unable to consider anything apart from blaming the immigrants.
 
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Deggo said:
What do you think it is?
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I honestly do not know these days. Like a mate of mine has been a self employed builder since he was 15. No formal qualifications. Retired recently, and has over £1m in cash/pension.

An attitude maybe? Dunno.
 
Azzurri said:
I was speaking to a local council worker the other day who was going on about voting Tory because they've reduced the deficit.

Not that she'll probably be out of a job 6 months in to their term, it's the deficit that matters of course.
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Ha Ha. Local councillors talking about the deficit. They cant even keep a friggin' library open.
 
roydo said:
I honestly do not know these days. Like a mate of mine has been a self employed builder since he was 15. No formal qualifications. Retired recently, and has over £1m in cash/pension.

An attitude maybe? Dunno.
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I'd say he's working class,I'm a skilled tradesman,I work mostly away from home and I'm paid very well for my time and efforts,I consider myself working class
 
Dymak said:
I'm sorry but I don't believe that at all. I'm no mathematician, but I know how much care packages cost and I have some knowledge about the type of numbers that some councils are dealing with. Very small isn't how I would describe such expenditure. I'm not jumping up and down wanting to remove social care services from the most vulnerable and afflicted people in society, if anyone deserves a bit of a break then it is them! But I am pointing out that that there are very valid reasons why almost every country in the world has some kind of immigration policy, and that some kind of thresholds need to be put in place (as there already are) in order to protect our own citizens.

Looking forward, a lot of these immigrants are going to grow old, become disabled or develop dementia etc. The costs are not small, the costs are only going to get bigger, eligibility is increasing, and we are being told the budget is going to get smaller. What's going to give?
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Fair enough, give me some figures then.
 
roydo said:
What is "Working class" exactly?
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If you own capital and put others to work for you so you can live off that, you're not working class. Everyone else: working class...even many of the professions have become proleterianized these days.

I know some people fall for the Tory establishment bluster and perceive that they have a stake in what they're about; but in reality the Tory leadership hold those people in contempt, even whilst scooping up their votes.

I just dont get the mentality that sees people with virtually nothing identify with people who have everything, and thereby cement in their own inferiority.
 
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DUP fuming that they were not invited to the debate LOL

The nightmare scenario of them propping up a Cameron government is a real one though.
 
Deggo said:
I'd say he's working class,I'm a skilled tradesman,I work mostly away from home and I'm paid very well for my time and efforts,I consider myself working class
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Yeah, its what you feel or believe in yourself I guess. Never given it much thought really. I work hard, when I am able to ffs, got tons of professional qualifications and that, but no trade to speak of at all.

I am just a bloke doing his best for himself and his family.
 
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