Thank you Mr. Lescott...

[ChicagoToffee]

It isn't a last minute request though is it .
City made a bid , then another bid . Both were denied. Lescott asked to leave.
He can't really help the timing of Cities bids, and he asked for a request soon after to be fair to him.
If anyone left things untill late, it was really Moyes if we're fair.

All I'm saying is how can you love someone then hate them with a click of a finger ........ or words to that effect .

Just like that. He ain't family and he ain't blood. I don't blame him at all for wanting to double his wages but his last minute pout show has purely disappointed. One thing for a man to do what he needs for his and another to piss on the hand of the one who opened that door. This could have all been done mich differently and without all of the bile, allegations, rumors and angst. Players get transferred - it's business.

The thing that's really pissed me off is Lescott's total silence - I haven't seen one quoted word from him during this entire escapade. Could have made his interest to move public and offered his reasons and we'd all have been much better off.

For as much as he turned his back on Everton by keeping his mouth shut and ignoring the supporters, I can turn my back on him.

(Snaps fingers loudly)

 

[kenada_blue]

It isn't a last minute request though is it .
City made a bid , then another bid . Both were denied. Lescott asked to leave.
He can't really help the timing of Cities bids, and he asked for a request soon after to be fair to him.
If anyone left things untill late, it was really Moyes if we're fair.

All I'm saying is how can you love someone then hate them with a click of a finger ........ or words to that effect .

The fans have been very tollerable to be fair.

He handed a transfer request in....we cheered him, wanted him to stay. Didnt change his mind. He didnt want to play against Arsenal, we still cheered him (some boo's like).

He could've handed his request in when the 1st bid came in if he was THAT adament on moving. But no, he does it when he's in another country on international duty.

The only thing Moyes messed up on was not being sensible in the whole thing. Instead of putting a price on Lescott and saying he can go if you meet that price, which is what Villa did with Barry when Liverpool came sniffing, and what we eventually did do last minute, what he did was dig his heels in and tried to fight a money machine.

 

[bluebastardo]

The fans have been very tollerable to be fair.

He handed a transfer request in....we cheered him, wanted him to stay. Didnt change his mind. He didnt want to play against Arsenal, we still cheered him (some boo's like).

He could've handed his request in when the 1st bid came in if he was THAT adament on moving. But no, he does it when he's in another country on international duty.

The only thing Moyes messed up on was not being sensible in the whole thing. Instead of putting a price on Lescott and saying he can go if you meet that price, which is what Villa did with Barry when Liverpool came sniffing, and what we eventually did do last minute, what he did was dig his heels in and tried to fight a money machine.

I look at it like this :

City wanted Lescott .
City got to Lescott and turned his head.
Everton knew City had money so said no to their first bid.
City knew Everton knew they had money, so went slowly.
Lescott asked immidiately to talk to City.
Everton said no.
City upped their bid.
Everton knew they could get more so said no.
Lescott was advised to hand a transfer request in.
Everton said no, again knowing they could get more money.
City were patient and knew Everton would sell eventually.
Both clubs started to talk.
City demanded Lescott was dropped from the side.
Everton agree.
Moyes slates Lescott off in the press.
Fee agreed.
Lescott gone.

We haven't heard Lescotts side of the story once, but he's been played by both clubs and made a scapegoat by Everton.

Everton have had all season to buy someone.
We know they had money because they have bid for players such as Naughton and Walker for example.

8 days left and still noone bought, and Moyes has the nerve to talk about Lescott leaving things until the last minute.
It stinks in my opinion.

 

[SevertonT]

just a thought.. how many of us would turn down a move for over double wages?

if i worked at a chip shop for £5.00 an hour. and another chip shop offered £11 an hour.. i would move.

just another point of view..

 

[kenada_blue]

I look at it like this :

City wanted Lescott .
City got to Lescott and turned his head.
Everton knew City had money so said no to their first bid.
City knew Everton knew they had money, so went slowly.
Lescott asked immidiately to talk to City.
Everton said no.
City upped their bid.
Everton knew they could get more so said no.
Lescott was advised to hand a transfer request in.
Everton said no, again knowing they could get more money.
City were patient and knew Everton would sell eventually.
Both clubs started to talk.
City demanded Lescott was dropped from the side.
Everton agree.
Moyes slates Lescott off in the press.
Fee agreed.
Lescott gone.

We haven't heard Lescotts side of the story once, but he's been played by both clubs and made a scapegoat by Everton.

Everton have had all season to buy someone.
We know they had money because they have bid for players such as Naughton and Walker for example.

8 days left and still noone bought, and Moyes has the nerve to talk about Lescott leaving things until the last minute.
It stinks in my opinion.

City wanted Lescott.
We wanted to keep Lescott.
City got to Lescott and turned his head.
We wanted to turn his head to stay at the club, being we only have 2 fit centre halves, he goes, only 1 and no cover for left back
Everton knew City had money so said no to their first bid.
Wasnt good enough, still didnt know if Lescott REALLY wanted to leave, he was on Holiday I think. Was more important to us than £15million that would only pay for a replacement not as good as Lescott.
City knew Everton knew they had money, so went slowly.
Citeh knew we have no money so gave a shitty bid and wouldnt meet a valuation for his importance at the club.
Lescott asked immidiately to talk to City.
Everton said no.
Did we? Who says? He was still on holiday.
City upped their bid.
Still wasnt good enough.
Everton knew they could get more so said no.
Still wanted to keep him. In our right to sell and not to sell.
Lescott was advised to hand a transfer request in.
1 week before the kick off to the season. Still got a good reception after the transfer request.
Everton said no, again knowing they could get more money.
We have every right to get more money as he was important to us, Citeh wouldnt up their bid, we didnt want to sell as Lescott was under contract. We should've put a price on his head and waited for Citeh to meet that valuation but we didnt.
City were patient and knew Everton would sell eventually.
Rumour was that they were ready to pull out and go after someone else untill "something" happened that rekindled the persuit. Maybe reports that Lescott didnt want to play against Arsenal got back to Citeh and put more pressure on the club. We got spanked, Lescott whinged....
THEN - Both clubs started to talk.
City demanded Lescott was dropped from the side.
Who said that? Citeh couldnt demand **** all from us.
Everton agree.
Or....Moyes realises he cant keep hold of Lescott, bad influence on the team, drops him.
Moyes slates Lescott off in the press.
When? All he's said is that he wasnt professional about it which he thought he would be.
Fee agreed.
Citeh overpay for a player not worth £24million.
Lescott gone.
About time.

Moyes hasnt said Lescott left it till the last minute, he's said that Citeh hadnt coughed up in time.

Maybe Citeh wanted to push it close to the deadline so we couldnt spend the money? Ever thought of that?

Moyes is at fault for not putting a price on Lescott's head and telling Citeh to pay the money or do one. If he did that after the 1st bid it would be up to Citeh to reach the valuation, if they didnt, no matter how much Lescott whinged, it would be Citeh's fault not ours. Moyes mentions Man United because Madrid coughed up a ridiculous amount of money straight away so they sold. What did Citeh do? Value him at £15million when we said he's worth more to us...something Moyes said straight from the off.

 

[bluebastardo]

City wanted Lescott.
We wanted to keep Lescott.
City got to Lescott and turned his head.
We wanted to turn his head to stay at the club, being we only have 2 fit centre halves, he goes, only 1 and no cover for left back
Everton knew City had money so said no to their first bid.
Wasnt good enough, still didnt know if Lescott REALLY wanted to leave, he was on Holiday I think. Was more important to us than £15million that would only pay for a replacement not as good as Lescott.
City knew Everton knew they had money, so went slowly.
Citeh knew we have no money so gave a shitty bid and wouldnt meet a valuation for his importance at the club.
Lescott asked immidiately to talk to City.
Everton said no.
Did we? Who says? He was still on holiday.
City upped their bid.
Still wasnt good enough.
Everton knew they could get more so said no.
Still wanted to keep him. In our right to sell and not to sell.
Lescott was advised to hand a transfer request in.
1 week before the kick off to the season. Still got a good reception after the transfer request.
Everton said no, again knowing they could get more money.
We have every right to get more money as he was important to us, Citeh wouldnt up their bid, we didnt want to sell as Lescott was under contract. We should've put a price on his head and waited for Citeh to meet that valuation but we didnt.
City were patient and knew Everton would sell eventually.
Rumour was that they were ready to pull out and go after someone else untill "something" happened that rekindled the persuit. Maybe reports that Lescott didnt want to play against Arsenal got back to Citeh and put more pressure on the club. We got spanked, Lescott whinged....
THEN - Both clubs started to talk.
City demanded Lescott was dropped from the side.
Who said that? Citeh couldnt demand **** all from us.
Everton agree.
Or....Moyes realises he cant keep hold of Lescott, bad influence on the team, drops him.
Moyes slates Lescott off in the press.
When? All he's said is that he wasnt professional about it which he thought he would be.
Fee agreed.
Citeh overpay for a player not worth £24million.
Lescott gone.
About time.

Moyes hasnt said Lescott left it till the last minute, he's said that Citeh hadnt coughed up in time.

Maybe Citeh wanted to push it close to the deadline so we couldnt spend the money? Ever thought of that?

Moyes is at fault for not putting a price on Lescott's head and telling Citeh to pay the money or do one. If he did that after the 1st bid it would be up to Citeh to reach the valuation, if they didnt, no matter how much Lescott whinged, it would be Citeh's fault not ours. Moyes mentions Man United because Madrid coughed up a ridiculous amount of money straight away so they sold. What did Citeh do? Value him at £15million when we said he's worth more to us...something Moyes said straight from the off.

Lol at you quoting every line
Which bit about ' how I look at it ' didn't you understand you big rice pudding?

Who says Everton didn't want to sell?
Everton? And you believe that?

The deal could have been done in many ways, but it was done how it was done.
As far as I'm concerned, Everton were very interested in selling from day one, but pretended to play hard to get, then lambasted Lescott once they knew they had a deal coming. All this media stuff was a farce imho.

Moyes out !

 

[kenada_blue]

Lol at you quoting every line
Which bit about ' how I look at it ' didn't you understand you big rice pudding?

Who says Everton didn't want to sell?
Everton? And you believe that?

The deal could have been done in many ways, but it was done how it was done.
As far as I'm concerned, Everton were very interested in selling from day one, but pretended to play hard to get, then lambasted Lescott once they knew they had a deal coming. All this media stuff was a farce imho.

Moyes out !

LOL.

I know. Moyes hasnt had to sell a player that wasnt wanting to go IMO. Lescott was a big player for us, especially when we've only got 1 fit centre half. Citeh are small time that now have big money so Moyes told them to **** off. Its almost as if Sunderland (who have money) came in for Lescott, should've have we sold to them if they were interested? Of course not.

If it was Arteta and Moyes didnt put up a fight to keep him, everyone would be pissed off. He tried all he could. He would've love the cash and sold straight away if he could and had a big squad. But he honestly would rather plough on as usual looking for bargins and keep Lescott than get rid of him. But when if just showed that money talks as usual but atleast Moyes gave them a fight.

He might have chatted [Poor language removed] or gone about it the wrong way, but he went at it like the team itself IMO. Trying to tackle the money rich clubs and fight them to the end, sometimes winning, sometimes losing. This time we lost a player.

But its fine. £24million will do.

Thats the last thing about Lescott I'm gonna talk about now. I respect Moyes for what he did. Might not be the way I wouldve done it but I respect Moyes for telling a mega rich club who havent won anything since the 70's to **** off.

Good night.

 

[Hayee]

Why would any player stay loyal to Everton when the next day someone leaves , the fans have the knife out for them, hope they break their legs , and talk about them like they were trash?

Had our fans said ' damn, he was a fine player and I wish he had stayed , but good luck to the lad ' then I could understand any player holding their hands up and admitting feeling a bit crap for leaving such wonderful fans, or even reconsider a move, but if Lescott was to read this thread, I'm sure he would pat himself on the back and think he was lucky to get out when he did.

We all talk about how much we love Jags and Arteta etc etc .
When they eventually leave, will we slaughter them too ?

Players come and go.
Get over it.

While Lescott was here, he got stuck in, and the fans were proud of him, and few deserved to wear the shirt more than he did.

Give the lad a break.

No not at all. Its the fact that he's undoubtedly gone for the money, showing no loyalty at all. Leaving us high and dry, spitting his dummy out, asking not to play, sulking and causing disruption. Acting like a spoilt brat. He didn't acknowledge us when we sang his name, he was the only player not applauding the fans after the arse disaster. Players who have left on good terms - michael ball, richard dunne, gavin mccann etc.. all get good receptions when they come back. Only scum who've showed no respect at all for us on their way out get hostility - the likes of rooney and barmby, now lescott will face it!

 

[Bluelass]

just a thought.. how many of us would turn down a move for over double wages?

if i worked at a chip shop for £5.00 an hour. and another chip shop offered £11 an hour.. i would move.

just another point of view..

I don't disagree with you in the context of the sort of money us mere mortals earn, because doubling or trebling our sort of money would have a huge impact on our lifestyles.
BUT
Someone who is already earning millions each year (yes it's a short career but they earn more in a week than the rest of us in a year or two) already has a superb standard of living and is able to go out and buy practically anything they want without even thinking about it.
They have a god given gift, they don't study, go to Uni or work their way through an apprenteship. They are effectively born with an ability and are able to demand huge fees for that gift.

You or I could work in any chippy but I couldnt operate on someone's brain or fly a 747. People who do that have spent huge chunks of their lives studying to learn those skills and are relatively well paid by comparison to me and thee in the chippy.!

It just seems wrong to me that most of us have to work our socks off to earn a decent living when those blessed with that gift of being able to kick a ball, hit a golf ball or whatever, are paid incredible amounts of money.

yes, of course, the more you have the more you want and if the money is on offer why not go for it?
He certainly put his wallet before all else but he's probably no different to anyone other footballer.

Strange old world!

 

[chicoazul]

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Thats quite wonderful literature Ms Lass, bravo.

 

[bluebastardo]

I don't disagree with you in the context of the sort of money us mere mortals earn, because doubling or trebling our sort of money would have a huge impact on our lifestyles.
BUT
Someone who is already earning millions each year (yes it's a short career but they earn more in a week than the rest of us in a year or two) already has a superb standard of living and is able to go out and buy practically anything they want without even thinking about it.
They have a god given gift, they don't study, go to Uni or work their way through an apprenteship. They are effectively born with an ability and are able to demand huge fees for that gift.

You or I could work in any chippy but I couldnt operate on someone's brain or fly a 747. People who do that have spent huge chunks of their lives studying to learn those skills and are relatively well paid by comparison to me and thee in the chippy.!

It just seems wrong to me that most of us have to work our socks off to earn a decent living when those blessed with that gift of being able to kick a ball, hit a golf ball or whatever, are paid incredible amounts of money.

yes, of course, the more you have the more you want and if the money is on offer why not go for it?
He certainly put his wallet before all else but he's probably no different to anyone other footballer.

Strange old world!

I'll go for most of it except the bit I've highlighted
That is incorrect I'm afraid. Footballers serve their time just like any doctor, solicitor, or electrician.
First on the playing fields as kids . Then the school teams, town teams etc etc. Then if they get a scholarship ( do they still call it that ? ) they go through the academy , or they might move up through the leagues . Most aren't on enormous sums of money, untill they get into the professional leagues, and even then, they have to climb the ladder whilst constantly training, and being disciplined in both their job and their life style.
To say they are born with it, or don't serve an apprenticeship is a little wide of the goal posts.

In either case, this thing about short careers is bull I agree.
They can get a job like everybody else has too.

 

[SevertonT]

I don't disagree with you in the context of the sort of money us mere mortals earn, because doubling or trebling our sort of money would have a huge impact on our lifestyles.
BUT
Someone who is already earning millions each year (yes it's a short career but they earn more in a week than the rest of us in a year or two) already has a superb standard of living and is able to go out and buy practically anything they want without even thinking about it.
They have a god given gift, they don't study, go to Uni or work their way through an apprenteship. They are effectively born with an ability and are able to demand huge fees for that gift.

You or I could work in any chippy but I couldnt operate on someone's brain or fly a 747. People who do that have spent huge chunks of their lives studying to learn those skills and are relatively well paid by comparison to me and thee in the chippy.!

It just seems wrong to me that most of us have to work our socks off to earn a decent living when those blessed with that gift of being able to kick a ball, hit a golf ball or whatever, are paid incredible amounts of money.

yes, of course, the more you have the more you want and if the money is on offer why not go for it?
He certainly put his wallet before all else but he's probably no different to anyone other footballer.

Strange old world!

completely agree with you.

when youve got a 2 million to spare ( which im sure he has) then whats the difference in having 4 million. You can still live like a king.

 

[linglong]

i actually hate the bloke more than rooney.
atleast rooney left for a big club.

i wish him all the bad luck in the world.

I dont hate either of them..but honestly is he really worth pretty much the same ammount that United paid for Rooney? nah i dont think so we cashed in our chips on the lad made a bit of a profit on him and we can all watch him slide into obscrity from where he came.

 

[TX Bill]

It's a tough one really, he's been an excellent player for us and has helped us develop as a club over the past three years but his attitude over the past week or so has been very disappointing. He really has left us in a [Poor language removed] situation.

I don’t blame him for wanting to leave, he’s joining a for more ambitious club who will double his wages. But I did expect him to show some professionalism and realise the situation Everton football club are in at this moment in time. Maybe that’s just me being naïve though, there’s no loyalty in football nowadays.

But who knows, maybe this money will give us that boost we really need and Moyes will work his magic in the transfer market. I hope that’s the case and we can move on.

This.

 

[McBain]

i'm just chuffed they bought the wrong center bck off us.

I know, how much is Jags worth if this J-lo is 24m?

50m?