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bol-uk
Player Valuation: £50m
As a life long Evertonian, with fond memories (though distant) of being the big time, and wanting to see our club challenge for honours once again, I am totally blown away by people wanting Sam to remain. Do you not want to see us challenge, play good football, dominate teams, play for a win? Are you happy with long ball hoofs, pedestrian passing, playing for draws at home to bottom of the league sides, subbing attacking midfielders for defenders while at 1-1 to Swansea??
I want a manager who is going to try new things not aim for 40 points each year then sit back and revel in their "glory".
Sad, sad times indeed.
I want a manager who is going to try new things not aim for 40 points each year then sit back and revel in their "glory".
Sad, sad times indeed.
While I agree it’s ok for people to want him here I also believe he’s not the man for Everton. Unless we have no ambition whatsoever. Can anyone, either those who want him here, or those who don’t, imagine Man City or United wanting him.
These are the prem elite right now and these are the targets we should be setting, we won’t get there with Sam.
These are the prem elite right now and these are the targets we should be setting, we won’t get there with Sam.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
At the start of the season we all thought we had a great squad.
twoblue
Player Valuation: £35m
Because they have a very good manager. Everyone on here would suggest we should go for if he was Portuguese.
thebluenosebolt
prefer being behind the times
They have just simply become the old moyes era Everton. They are now classed as plucky Burnley by the press...whereas were now simply classed as moaners and wannabees
Clear the lot out....this is getting embarassing....
We have completely lost any identity whatsoever...and its horrible.
We have been piss poor all season, both before and after Allardyce came in. But the reason we weren’t relegated has nothing to do with Allardyce, and everything to do with the fact that there are somehow a number of clubs worse than us.
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
We were conceding 2+ a game before he came in, think it happened 9 games in a row. Allardyce has many flaws, but to say he hasn't improved us defensively from where we were isn't fair.
Goals conceded after the first 14 games (Koeman and Unsworth)
18. Everton = 28
19. Stoke = 29
20. West Ham = 30
Goals conceded since Allardyce has been here (20 games)
8. Everton = 26
18. Watford and Stoke = 35
19. Southampton = 36
20. Bournemouth = 40
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
Some of our fans let their dislike of him cloud their judgement and make out he's contributed nothing, when he clearly has. I don't understand the point of showing we were 13th when he came in, now 9th as some sort of argument that it means there has been 'no improvement'. Just doesn't make sense.
That said, he needs to go. He has proved all those who doubted him to be correct since January with his negative tactics and playing down expectations for the self preservation of his own 'reputation'. The football has been dire for 90%+ of games and we've been dropping points to teams that were there for the taking.
At the start he was unfortunate that he was without the likes of Coleman, Baines, Bolasie, Tosun, Walcott etc. He's had the benefit of all of them since January and he hasn't got the best out of them. He isn't good enough for this club and should be removed as soon as the season is over.
That said, he needs to go. He has proved all those who doubted him to be correct since January with his negative tactics and playing down expectations for the self preservation of his own 'reputation'. The football has been dire for 90%+ of games and we've been dropping points to teams that were there for the taking.
At the start he was unfortunate that he was without the likes of Coleman, Baines, Bolasie, Tosun, Walcott etc. He's had the benefit of all of them since January and he hasn't got the best out of them. He isn't good enough for this club and should be removed as soon as the season is over.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Is that ignoring that Koeman had the top 6 and Leicester (most away from home) in those first 14 games? Allardyce has had by far an easier run of fixtures and done marginally better. A lighter shade of...
You're in the minority for an obvious reasons tbf.
Most people prefer not to let a man who we know plays horrific football, and we know cannot bring success, manage another game nevermind another full season.
MrGrumpy
Player Valuation: £50m
That stats wrong.....
Everton Goal conceded before Coleman and Bains where back 28 afterward 26, nowt to do with Sam
Sadly nothing surprises me.
My Dad hated Steven Pienaar and made me nearly choke on my dinner one night when he said David O'Leary should replace Moyes.
It must be an over 50s thing lol
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £40m
Exactly, because if that were the case by that logic @davek is the biggest Koppite of all time!
I dont agree with what the OP is saying, because I never believed we would go down, but i also believe he was brought in to make sure while somebody better was sorted out. Could he have been kept on had he genuinely turned things around? I reckon so, but he hasnt really doen that insofar as our football is still awful. And before people say it is because of our awful players, does anybody genuinely think the likes of Palace, Swansea, Bournemouth etc. have markedly better players than us? Yet they largely pkay better football? On that basis, Sam has been a monumental flop!
Coleman and Baines coming back explains that
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