Summer transfer window.

[Marcus Kendall]

….not forgetting, I wasn’t keen on us getting KDH from Chelsea and he’s turned out alright

Exactly. I think Delap is tailor made for a Moyes team personally and I'm not changing my mind just because he's had a disaster of a season at a club that's been in disarray much of the season

 

[Neiler]

That's a fair assessment but I do still hope we go in another direction if a striker is deemed as a position of need.

Someone like Goto, currently playing in Belgium, could be a good option. Similar age to Delap and I think the better player overall. Or perhaps even someone like Franculino who has over 20 goals in a decent Danish league, only 21 years old.

I think a bigger question is why do we always seem to go for the big physical no 9 mate - we seem to have a type he go for. We wouldn't go for someone of say a Jamie Vardy, with speed on the counter.

I know smaller players aren't i vouge at the moment - but we tend to like a big physical no 9 and play 1 - forever and a day. Thinking here Niasse, Eto, Naismith, Johnson and Beckford seem in some way to have bucked the overall trend.

 

[Sam0697]

There’ll be money going out the door regardless on Rohl, and presumably George if all parties agree to the deal. Then there’s the Grealish situation so we could still have to put up a decent amount just to stand still.

That’s before we consider if any of Gueye Coleman Keane leave.

We really need to be maximising the output from George Dibling Rohl Alcaraz next season as we might not be able to bring in a load of bodies. There’s 4 players there we’ve not really seen the best of. Even more if Aznou is ever going to be considered.

With Dibling, Rohl and Aznou I think they were signed with more long term goals in mind. Obviously we want them to contribute right away, but I don't think people at the club were necessarily expecting to see tons from them until next season.

People ask every window why we don't sign young up and coming players before they make it big and their value skyrockets- the tradeoff to that is their first year or two are often a bit rocky and inconsistent before they really start to flourish.

 

[Zatara]

I actually don’t mind a player who’s been burned at a CL club quite quickly. They don’t see the club as some sort of stepping stone and tend to be grateful to play regularly and re-find their form. It’s similar to KDH and Grealish, we’re not sat here worrying they’re going to leave us for City or United at the first sniff. Even Garner knows what it’s like to sit on a bench at United and he’s now in the England team for us. It worked with Pienaar and Arteta previously as well.

Not saying Delap is the answer upfront but the strategy of looking for a good player who maybe hasn’t made it into the team at a CL club for any various reason isn’t a bad one. Lukaku is another really good example.

Great points mate, KDH is a great example of the swallowed up at a CL profile - not even his biggest fans I think would have predicted his influence and impact.

Also not saying he’s the answer or haven’t seen credible links rwally, but I wouldn’t minimise him as a player based solely on his Chelsea career.

We seem to be keeping a wide eye there for value, KDH, George …… Broja.

Exactly. I think Delap is tailor made for a Moyes team personally and I'm not changing my mind just because he's had a disaster of a season at a club that's been in disarray much of the season

Delap really looks like the ideal Moyes type centre forward.

Plays hard, runs and has experience.

I think he's gone to Chelsea for the obvious reasons: Knows the manager, big salary and european football with possible trophies.

Not sure its been mentioned too often recently but beyond Kane theres, Solanke, Watkins, DCL, Abraham & Toney.

With them being 28years old and above Delap may have fancied himself, and was touted in the media, as being the next England centre forward.

Their style of play is different to ours and he should be more suited to our more direct approach.

For Ipswich he scored 10 non penalty goals and you'd have to hope that in our team he'd be able to score 15.

Hard not to see the issues he's had this season though and he doesnt seem to have the Xfactor quality not to mention he looks like he cant hit a barn door.

 

[Rehnman]

Delap really looks like the ideal Moyes type centre forward.

Plays hard, runs and has experience.

I think he's gone to Chelsea for the obvious reasons: Knows the manager, big salary and european football with possible trophies.

Not sure its been mentioned too often recently but beyond Kane theres, Solanke, Watkins, DCL, Abraham & Toney.

With them being 28years old and above Delap may have fancied himself, and was touted in the media, as being the next England centre forward.

Their style of play is different to ours and he should be more suited to our more direct approach.

For Ipswich he scored 10 non penalty goals and you'd have to hope that in our team he'd be able to score 15.

Hard not to see the issues he's had this season though and he doesnt seem to have the Xfactor quality not to mention he looks like he cant hit a barn door.

Last summer we tried for Delap and McAtee, this summer we might be after Shea Charles and Rico Lewis, I’m sure we’re just trying to recreate Man City’s all-conquering under-18s from 2021. Not a bad idea actually! Amazing that they also had Cole Palmer, James Trafford, Nico O’Reilly, Egan-Lewis of Burnley and Harwood-Bellis and Edozie of Southampton in there. Some hit rate that!

 

[N0L1M1TK]

I just don’t see Delap as an upgrade on what we currently have.

If we moved Beto on and could secure a loan with an option then sure, however at this moment I would not be quick to throw 30m at Delap.

If he impressed on loan, go for it, but I have doubts.

 

[preposterousvelios]

I know we have a tradition of nasty, physical centre forwards but Delap just not doing it for me. Can be a battering ram but I dont see a player with the technique to effectively link up with Ndiaye, KDH, Grealish.

Should be looking for someone who has the physicality while still being a decent footballer.

 

[Sam0697]

I just don’t see Delap as an upgrade on what we currently have.

If we moved Beto on and could secure a loan with an option then sure, however at this moment I would not be quick to throw 30m at Delap.

If he impressed on loan, go for it, but I have doubts.

I actually feel like Beto is the more likely striker to stay- he is an experienced head who Moyes knows can do a serviceable job and won't cause problems if he's on the bench for a spell. There's something to be said for a hardworking striker who can get you 8-10 goals a season.

Barry's future feels like it's 50/50 at the minute. He clearly has talent but at the same time, he has played for 5 clubs in 5 seasons so if there's any interest in him I would imagine he would be pushing his agent for a move, especially given his fractured relationship with parts of the fanbase.

Delap as effectively a like for like swap with Barry would make sense in that situation I guess, though I also don't see him as an upgrade on what we have.

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

I just don’t see Delap as an upgrade on what we currently have.

If we moved Beto on and could secure a loan with an option then sure, however at this moment I would not be quick to throw 30m at Delap.

If he impressed on loan, go for it, but I have doubts.

I agree. I was in favour of the move at the end of last season when we were looking to progress toward mid-table. But we should be looking higher. Beto will score goals, but isn't a great all round player (personally I would look to keep him - goals are always hard to come by), and Barry has a lot to learn, but still looks like he could be better than Delap to me.

Delap seems like a Moyes type striker (and I don’t mean that as a compliment). Hard working, will never help out much in the scoring charts.

I think we need 3 forwards (particularly if we make Europe). I would keep these 2 and look to get as big an upgrade as we possibly can for our other striker. I don't think Delap is any better than our current 2, possibly worse. He certainly has no kind of goalscoring record.

 

[GoldenToffee]

I know we have a tradition of nasty, physical centre forwards but Delap just not doing it for me. Can be a battering ram but I dont see a player with the technique to effectively link up with Ndiaye, KDH, Grealish.

Should be looking for someone who has the physicality while still being a decent footballer.

100%. I'd go nowhere near him, but still fully support him if he ended up here. We'd still need another striker though too. One of Barry or Beto needs to go—hopefully Barry—then we go into the season with three strikers all with separate skillsets.

One of them, for example, could be also just as comfortable playing wide right, whereas the other could be a nimble, speed merchant. Use the Liverpool Mane/Firmino/Salah blueprint.

It'll be a disaster if we go into next season with two strikers only. Surely the club will learn its lesson?

 

[GoldenToffee]

Definitely a few promising players to be had from Wolves. Hugo Bueno at left back has looked decent and is only 23. Mateus Mane is their standout youngster.

The concern with Bueno however is he has a single assist and goal this season, and we'd need a bigger step-up from Mykolenko as a starter. Verdict: Swerve.

Mane, very promising prospect. Can play as a number 10 or out wide. Likely too lightweight as a number 9. Verdict: Don't overpay a la Dibling, but strongly consider.

From Burnley, I'd only look at Ugochukwu as a central midfield option. Versatile, young (23), physically imposing (6'3) and probably a much better long-term option than a Soucek, for example.

Obviously if Spurs were to drop, clubs from all over Europe would be queueing up for their players: Gray, Bergvall, Sarr, even Richarlison if a cut-price (£15m) deal could be had. Kudus, Van De Ven, Porro, Romero, Bissouma, Tel obviously all quality players, but there are serious doubts regarding their characters, and I don't think any of them would fit into our squad which doesn't appear to have any knob heads.

West Ham give me Summerville, Diouf and Bowen all day long.

From Forest, I'd happily have Gibbs-White, but Anderson is surely set for bigger things than Everton.

There are definitely deals to be had with relegated clubs.

 

[Zatara]

I just don’t see Delap as an upgrade on what we currently have.

If we moved Beto on and could secure a loan with an option then sure, however at this moment I would not be quick to throw 30m at Delap.

If he impressed on loan, go for it, but I have doubts.

I know we have a tradition of nasty, physical centre forwards but Delap just not doing it for me. Can be a battering ram but I dont see a player with the technique to effectively link up with Ndiaye, KDH, Grealish.

Should be looking for someone who has the physicality while still being a decent footballer.

I actually feel like Beto is the more likely striker to stay- he is an experienced head who Moyes knows can do a serviceable job and won't cause problems if he's on the bench for a spell. There's something to be said for a hardworking striker who can get you 8-10 goals a season.

Barry's future feels like it's 50/50 at the minute. He clearly has talent but at the same time, he has played for 5 clubs in 5 seasons so if there's any interest in him I would imagine he would be pushing his agent for a move, especially given his fractured relationship with parts of the fanbase.

Delap as effectively a like for like swap with Barry would make sense in that situation I guess, though I also don't see him as an upgrade on what we have.

I agree. I was in favour of the move at the end of last season when we were looking to progress toward mid-table. But we should be looking higher. Beto will score goals, but isn't a great all round player (personally I would look to keep him - goals are always hard to come by), and Barry has a lot to learn, but still looks like he could be better than Delap to me.

Delap seems like a Moyes type striker (and I don’t mean that as a compliment). Hard working, will never help out much in the scoring charts.

I think we need 3 forwards (particularly if we make Europe). I would keep these 2 and look to get as big an upgrade as we possibly can for our other striker. I don't think Delap is any better than our current 2, possibly worse. He certainly has no kind of goalscoring record.

Big questions at CF

Beto: Hard working, team player, good head on his shoulders, loved by the fans and manager for his attitude. Possibly an 8-10 goal a season player.

1 year on his contract. If we extend then we would probably keep him 4+ seasons and lose any resale.


Barry: Looks disinterested, lazy, weak mentally. But appearances can be deceptive and hes matched his XG. Again, could be an 8-10 goals a season player after having this season to settle in.

3 years on his contract and we either sell at a lose or hope Moyes can build him up over the summer. We saw the likes of Mateta completely transform


Delap: Old fashioned English centre forward who has similar traits to Beto but more quality having come through at City.

Liam Delap - Injury history

This is the injury history of Liam Delap from FC Chelsea. On this page injuries as well as suspensions.

www.transfermarkt.com

He's missed 15 gamee through injury. Joined a club who have shown they see competing and winning as secondary to developing players for profit.

Perhaps under Moyes he'd be a central figure and make his way into the England squad.

If we signed him on loan with an option that would be ideal.

Delap: £30mil
Barry: £27.5mil
Beto: £25mil

Is this the way to go or would it not be better to sell one of Barry/Beto and invest in a player for £50mil+ ?

We'd have 2 CFs rather than 3 but in theory, one would have superior quality.

 

[Zatara]

Big questions at CF

Beto: Hard working, team player, good head on his shoulders, loved by the fans and manager for his attitude. Possibly an 8-10 goal a season player.

1 year on his contract. If we extend then we would probably keep him 4+ seasons and lose any resale.


Barry: Looks disinterested, lazy, weak mentally. But appearances can be deceptive and hes matched his XG. Again, could be an 8-10 goals a season player after having this season to settle in.

3 years on his contract and we either sell at a lose or hope Moyes can build him up over the summer. We saw the likes of Mateta completely transform


Delap: Old fashioned English centre forward who has similar traits to Beto but more quality having come through at City.

Liam Delap - Injury history

This is the injury history of Liam Delap from FC Chelsea. On this page injuries as well as suspensions.

www.transfermarkt.com

He's missed 15 gamee through injury. Joined a club who have shown they see competing and winning as secondary to developing players for profit.

Perhaps under Moyes he'd be a central figure and make his way into the England squad.

If we signed him on loan with an option that would be ideal.

Delap: £30mil
Barry: £27.5mil
Beto: £25mil

Is this the way to go or would it not be better to sell one of Barry/Beto and invest in a player for £50mil+ ?

We'd have 2 CFs rather than 3 but in theory, one would have superior quality.

Just going to mention this as well.

I remember his goals to shots ratio last year was the same as Haaland, with more difficult attempts.

At double figures he was 40% of Ipswich's goals and that rounded off to about 33%.

He took on the responsibility himself and if he did that with us we'd see a 15-20 goal a season player.

He was strong, quick and coming from City was able to spread the play and link well.

I think we could do with a better player but he does look a Moyes CF and the fuss Moyes made over him means he's obviously seen as a key addition.

Used as a starter and without injury issues then I think you've got to lean towards backing the manager here.

 

[Eggs]

 

[st.domingo]

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P.S. I’m sure they wouldn’t be stooping to trying to unsettle one of our key attackers ahead of us playing them, but hopefully he turns it on for them anyway - let them really know what they’re missing