Summer Transfer Window 2025 Thread

[Neiler]

He will, and i think a few of Sunderlands players, will struggle with the physicality of the Premier League (Its why Jobe hotfooted it off to Germany).

That's not a slight on him, he's 18, but i can see him being used a little less next season for his own benefit

We saw it last season with Ipswich, when good technical footballers like Davies, Hutchison, Clarke, all struggled a bit, and the more physical players such as Delap, Greaves, and Burns & Szmodics (when fit) looked more at home.

A team can carry 2 or 3 of these, but Sunderland have O'Nein, Hume, Cirkin, Rigg, Neil all lacking in physicality. I think Neil might be able to put it on, but that will still take time to adapt.

Thought Greaves struggled if im honest mate.

 

[mikel_88]

I dont think we'll have a chance in 12months. The only time for him and also Dibling for example is this window.

The idea off Armstrong and Rigg developing together in the centre would be very exciting and I think we should prioritise these types of signings who can build a new team.

Dont think is the time unless you pay big would think rigg would atleast keep his value even if they do go down. Being more likely if they do could ask for more money a year expericence under him, same with dinbling in the future we should be in for players like him but the talk of 50 mill the club is not in the position for that atm

 

[mikel_88]

I dont think we'll have a chance in 12months. The only time for him and also Dibling for example is this window.

The idea off Armstrong and Rigg developing together in the centre would be very exciting and I think we should prioritise these types of signings who can build a new team.

Dont think is the time unless you pay big would think rigg would atleast keep his value even if they do go down. Being more likely if they do could ask for more money a year expericence under him, same with dinbling in the future we should be in for players like him but the talk of 50 mill the club is not in the position for that atm

 

[Lanolin]

Why’re wasting money on him then, if he’s not a massive improvement. Just smacks of Moyes wanting his own way and wanting prem experience. Like when he spent 30mil on 29yr old ward prowse
Id rather we did a loan for a year, like for a dewsbury hall if possible, who’s better than Longstaff

Dont think is that just think the problem will be the money they want and can see them asking for 30 while will would be looking at around 20. Worth to ask the question and how much time left on his contact. Dont think they would care at all selling him to us just problem with them selling others they can ask for top money

Would accept it just think problem be the money he would want and the price they would want. Need two in the middle imo just thought moyes would want real quality with gana going the acon.

I don't necessarily disagree, in fact that was kind of my point. If we end up going for Longstaff and paying decent money for him i'll be a bit disappointed because he doesn't really push us forward and i'd feel like there are similar players we could have got (even in the same sort of bracket) for less. He's not a terrible player though, there's a lot of hyperbole about how bad he is that suggests some people haven't actually seen him play much and are just running with a half baked idea about him. He'd be fine here, but not much more than that which obviously is what we all want.

 

[mikel_88]

I don't necessarily disagree, in fact that was kind of my point. If we end up going for Longstaff and paying decent money for him i'll be a bit disappointed because he doesn't really push us forward and i'd feel like there are similar players we could have got (even in the same sort of bracket) for less. He's not a terrible player though, there's a lot of hyperbole about how bad he is that suggests some people haven't actually seen him play much and are just running with a half baked idea about him. He'd be fine here, but not much more than that which obviously is what we all want.

yeah pretty much think can accept deals like this just for me really need a quality cm to come in with questions over gana long term. Then garner who needs to up his game and i would say longstaff is on a similar level while we need a cm to really push us on

 

[Zatara]

Your mad

Looking at this post, you appear to be the mad one.

 

[Zatara]

Dont think is the time unless you pay big would think rigg would atleast keep his value even if they do go down. Being more likely if they do could ask for more money a year expericence under him, same with dinbling in the future we should be in for players like him but the talk of 50 mill the club is not in the position for that atm

As i said, i dont think we can get them in 12months. The only time would be now.

Same thing i said with Wharton.

 

[toffeeblue9]

Dont think is the time unless you pay big would think rigg would atleast keep his value even if they do go down. Being more likely if they do could ask for more money a year expericence under him, same with dinbling in the future we should be in for players like him but the talk of 50 mill the club is not in the position for that atm

This is it really.

Don't think I've seen anyone suggest that Rigg and Dibling aren't really good prospects, but that isn't really the point - we need to get somewhere in the region of 10 players in this summer if reports are to be believed and we need to do that on a relatively limited budget. Rigg and Dibling are going to be north of £30m each, probably far north of that. It'd be lovely to sign them, but it would be presumably at the cost of almost anything you could spend elsewhere and (in my opinion) their age and experience mean they probably wouldn't make a huge difference to us next season.

There's a short term need to get us higher up the league, ideally into the top half next season and we need to get players in who can get us there - it's an incredibly difficult ask to do this, whilst needing 10 players to fill the squad out on a limited budget. To me it's not the time to be buying players with an eye on the future, that's what you do next summer after you've established the foundations.

 

[Exeter_Gently]

Thought Greaves struggled if im honest mate.

Remember watching him a few times last season because we were linked.

He was shocking.

 

[Neiler]

Dont think is the time unless you pay big would think rigg would atleast keep his value even if they do go down. Being more likely if they do could ask for more money a year expericence under him, same with dinbling in the future we should be in for players like him but the talk of 50 mill the club is not in the position for that atm

Rigg looks a bit special to me mate, i got these wow vibes anytime i watched him earlier in the season. Hes something a little bit special in my opinion.

To be completely balanced, he regressed as the year went on. Which you would absolutely expect of a 17 year old in their first season in club football.

For me the question is less about should we sign him - we should - but rather can we sign him.

Hes the type of player like Brennan Johnson, Bergvall or Archie Gray that Spurs would stockpile and let percolate for a year or two. An investment to develop.

So the ultimate question is are Everton now in a position were it can spent what 20 -30 mill (prob more) on a prospect for two or three years time when he is probably ready to start games or does the budget need to be spent on say a Soucek who has to come in and hit the ground running.

Then if we don't compete to sign him - the likes of Spurs or Villa will - so another question is - do we want to compete with them.

I know im talking about Rigg - but that could be true of any young player really - buy for now or buy for the future and how much - the going rate in this bracket id suggest is 30 -40 mill, Sunderland would be stupid to sell for less and dont need to.

 

[Neiler]

Remember watching him a few times last season because we were linked.

He was shocking.

Me too mate, looked completely out of is depth mate and he wasn't cheap, very basic things he was struggling with.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

yeah pretty much think can accept deals like this just for me really need a quality cm to come in with questions over gana long term. Then garner who needs to up his game and i would say longstaff is on a similar level while we need a cm to really push us on

Longstaff is a much better player than Garner.

 

[Lanolin]

He will, and i think a few of Sunderlands players, will struggle with the physicality of the Premier League (Its why Jobe hotfooted it off to Germany).

That's not a slight on him, he's 18, but i can see him being used a little less next season for his own benefit

We saw it last season with Ipswich, when good technical footballers like Davies, Hutchison, Clarke, all struggled a bit, and the more physical players such as Delap, Greaves, and Burns & Szmodics (when fit) looked more at home.

A team can carry 2 or 3 of these, but Sunderland have O'Nein, Hume, Cirkin, Rigg, Neil all lacking in physicality. I think Neil might be able to put it on, but that will still take time to adapt.

That absolutely isn't why Bellingham has left, nor do I think there's much merit in the rest of the post.

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

As i said, i dont think we can get them in 12months. The only time would be now.

Same thing i said with Wharton.

That's not the flex you think it is because there is a list of about 200 young players that you have wanted us to buy and 99% are complete duds.

 

[jinkyali]

Thought Greaves struggled if im honest mate.

The comparisons of him to JB were laughable at the time and even more so now.