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LEONARD
Player Valuation: £60m
In over 50 years watching the Toffee's, I never seen the fan-base so demoralized.
The ongoing, and never ending, derby debacles, are just one manifestation of why this is so.
The saga surrounding the new stadium, wherever and whenever it may be, is just exhausting us all.
Both on and off the pitch, we now expect nothing, and we are not disappointed in this respect.
Most of us don't believe a word coming out of the club, and we carry on going the game out of a sense of familial and historical duty.
They lie to us, and kick us in the teeth, and we just carry on going through the turnstiles.
We are not deluded, we recognize and accept the reality that is supporting Everton FC.
The ongoing, and never ending, derby debacles, are just one manifestation of why this is so.
The saga surrounding the new stadium, wherever and whenever it may be, is just exhausting us all.
Both on and off the pitch, we now expect nothing, and we are not disappointed in this respect.
Most of us don't believe a word coming out of the club, and we carry on going the game out of a sense of familial and historical duty.
They lie to us, and kick us in the teeth, and we just carry on going through the turnstiles.
We are not deluded, we recognize and accept the reality that is supporting Everton FC.
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I am 65 and I can’t remember many more than that
We endured a similiar winless run between David Johnson in 1971 and Andy King in 1978......but never at any point during that run did we all feel so totally defeatist in the build up to the game.
I posted last night.......they have won nowt of any great note since Istanbul 13 years ago and precious little in the 15 years preceding that but right now the gulf between the two clubs appears wider than at any time in history....including during their late 70s/early 80s heyday.
There was nothing like the derby when you had a realistic chance of winning. Nowadays the derby is just another game where we can't compete.
witchdoc187
Player Valuation: £70m
Think imiwith you there mate. Even if we win its completly meaningless
brieverton
Player Valuation: £50m
Didn’t Espanyol beat Barca recently as well?
Theirs was the longest losing run in a city derby IIRC.
If we don’t win one soon I think even Sky won’t be able to sustain their silly “derby day” red vs blue hype.
People see through it for what it is now. It’s become a hollow ritual we go through it out of habit.
Theirs was the longest losing run in a city derby IIRC.
If we don’t win one soon I think even Sky won’t be able to sustain their silly “derby day” red vs blue hype.
People see through it for what it is now. It’s become a hollow ritual we go through it out of habit.
I think that's the point though pal. Can you imagine us giving them a 'good hiding'? We may somehow grab a spawny result, but unless we go out there and play, and compete, and deserve at least to get a result, it means nothing to us fans.
In the FA cup game, I actually felt it was the one time this season where we did compete, and I got genuinely excited again watching us and cheering us on. We were unlucky - the wrong end of a dubious penalty decision away from a DESERVED draw or victory. Nothing before or since...
It would be a hollow victory if we scrambled a bus-parking, tactically inept 1-0 if all it did was give toad face some fanciful face-saving screen time to big up his already bloated ego.
We are a shadow of the teams that have fought and played with true passion for the past 10 years, from Moyes to Martinez to Koeman (1st season).
The best way to shut them up is not to pretend we don't care, it is to absolutely smash them. And every derby, I expect us to smash them. No glorious draws or back against the wall performances - absolutely smash them. And the day we do that (hopefully this weekend) will be the day we can all stop pretending that this isn't our most important league game of the season.
Charles Hawtrey
Player Valuation: £50m
I would suggest that our most important game of this season might have been Brighton Home where a defeat and the mood around the place could well have sent us into a bad place. We got past that and we are currently only playing to see out some more of the BFS’s contract. Our season was over in that Anfield cup game or even before when we announced BFS and our ambition to survive...
Tennessee Blue Mike
Player Valuation: £50m
City tonked us. [Poor language removed] tonked City. Custer never had it so easy. Miserable season no last stand. Who cares anymore until we get a quality coach who can set us up the right way.
I demand a win. End of.
Blackwell Livermore
Player Valuation: £8m
This. They'd never admit it but it's a bigger deal to them than it is to us (and it is a big deal for us and let's not pretend it's not).Jim Keoghan submitted an update to GrandOldTeam's homepage
Sod 'em
Derby has grown in significance for them. When you are no longer a big deal on the national or European stage, it gives comfort to Reds that they can still be kings in their own backyard.
Chozz
Player Valuation: £6m
Aside from a brief wave of optimism last summer (big spending, new stadium talks, u23s success, u20s wc winners etc) the general slide into apathy and depression with Everton continues at pace. Just when you think things can't grt any worse, they invariably do - when it comes to Everton.
Even though this fixture falls between two crucial cl matches for them, even though they could rest a few players, even though Salah might be out, even though, even though, even though....we will still lose.
Under Roy Hodgson / Kenny Daglish they had one of their worst sides. Paul Konchesky, Raul Mereiles, Andy Carroll, Jay Spearing, Stewart Downing etc and we still threw away a 2-1 lead at anfield and botched that semi when leading 1-0 with 30 mins to go. Their keeper that day was Brad Jones. WE STILL COULDN'T BEAT THEM.
As the post indicated, we invest emotionally in these games to such a high degree that we are crushed when we lose. I have taken a decision in recent years to reign in my emotional attachmemt to not just derbies but all matches unfortunately. This means I no longer get over excited when we win or score but more importantly I am not so dejected when we lose. I made this choice because Everton, more often than not made me miserable every weekend - a time when you should be off work enjoying life with friends and family.
How sad is that?
Even though this fixture falls between two crucial cl matches for them, even though they could rest a few players, even though Salah might be out, even though, even though, even though....we will still lose.
Under Roy Hodgson / Kenny Daglish they had one of their worst sides. Paul Konchesky, Raul Mereiles, Andy Carroll, Jay Spearing, Stewart Downing etc and we still threw away a 2-1 lead at anfield and botched that semi when leading 1-0 with 30 mins to go. Their keeper that day was Brad Jones. WE STILL COULDN'T BEAT THEM.
As the post indicated, we invest emotionally in these games to such a high degree that we are crushed when we lose. I have taken a decision in recent years to reign in my emotional attachmemt to not just derbies but all matches unfortunately. This means I no longer get over excited when we win or score but more importantly I am not so dejected when we lose. I made this choice because Everton, more often than not made me miserable every weekend - a time when you should be off work enjoying life with friends and family.
How sad is that?
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