so where does martinez's everton have to finish for it to be a success?????????

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Haha. What am I dealin with? Use your brain mate. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what he is implying via interviews.

He says how good Moyes has done but it's time to move forward and progress his work.

This is totally irrelevant to this thread but you should know I am the master of psychology
I wouldn't bother to tell you what I think you are.









*the irony of this post is amazing as I am at work at the moment sitting in the office of the psychology department ha ha
 
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I've been on a few forums of other clubs in the last few days, they all think we are finished and that we are going to drop right down the table. Newcastle, in particular, think that they are going to finish above us.

Just saying.
 
As it stands, I'd say for his first season to be a "success", he needs to keep the sh*te at bay for another season and keep us in the top 6. That would almost surely mean Europe for the season after. Plus they would be absolutely furious. If we could have a cup run as well, that'd be ace, but cups are a lottery to an extent, so I'm never going to expect a trophy. A big success would be taking a step up the league to fifth and knocking one of the London clubs out of that top 5. Top 4 would be a step up from big success, whatever that is.

Seventh would be decent, but a bit meh in all honesty. It'd be very decent if this transfer window goes south though. I still think it'd be disappointing to slip behind the sh*te, taking into account who their manager is, but they've got money to burn.

8th or lower is a big disappointment. We'd have to finish below someone sh*te and given the talent that's set to be in our team, that's inexcusable. I wouldn't be calling for the gaffer's head, but in his opening season or two, I'll judge him on similar standards to the ones I had for Moyes. He's got Moyes' excellent squad and team spirit, so if he's tactically better than Moyes, which is one of his big fans' main reasons for being happy about the appointment, we should be aiming to improve on what Moyes has done, not go backwards.
 
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I've been on a few forums of other clubs in the last few days, they all think we are finished and that we are going to drop right down the table. Newcastle, in particular, think that they are going to finish above us.

Just saying.

Newcastle are second only to the sh*te in having the most deluded fans in the land. If this is the general consensus around the country though, I fancy us to surprise them, this season, at least.
 
Newcastle is a sinking ship, after calling Wenger out for filling his squad with french players they had to buy almost the entire french NT just to barely stay on EPL. What a joke.

Anyway, I hope to see a strong emphasis on youth while finish on top half, maybe a cup win if Fellaini and Baines stays.
 
I wouldn't take what any of the fans say about us finishing below them because unless you really follow us, you don't know how good our players actually are.

Few examples "Every time I've seen that Coleman he looks ****e" - from my mate. The general consensus that Gary Cahill is better than Jagielka, That Ashley Cole is still better than Baines. That Gibson is crap cause he's a man utd reject.

When IMO, if we didn't bottle it in the January window and actually bought a proper striker, we'd be in Europe now because that's where this squad should of been.

Anything below 8th is unacceptable without a cup. (Views may change with transfer outs)
 
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