Sinking hearts

[Tex]

The problem is most people have short memories.

If we cock up the signing of Pienaar, everyone will rage. Then if we make a good start to the season and beat Utd, do you think we'll hear a peep? Doubt it.

Kenwright and co have made so many mistakes its unreal, but people always forget until the next one comes along. Call me a cynic, but the fans of this club wont ever oust the chairman.

Well said mate. Seen that happen many times over the years.

 

[longyblue]

I am a lifelong blue. I have always loved our team. I was born and raised in the Days of Harry Catterick and Brian Labone. Always through the ups and downs I believed one thing. Behind the players was a great club. A club which believed in providing the best it possibly can for the supporters. For the FAMILY THAT IS EVERTON FOOTBALL CLUB.

Through the whole Blue Union / Kenwright in/out sage I have kept myself deliberately out of the debate. I have sat on a blue picket fence and got on with cheering our boys through thick and thin.

Now I am not so sure. you see in the past I have been clear that the board and the owners were as committed to the success of this club as I am committed to supporting them. I gave them the benefit of the doubt because I believed and still do that Kenwright is a huge fan of the club. The sticking point comes down to the word COMMITMENT

Who or what are the board committed to ? When I see comments from players like Pranjic saying we were too slow...when I see players not signed because they were pinched from under our noses by Harry and now when I see the dithering over Pienaar.....

I am approaching the stance that the board are not committed to our success in the same terms as we fans. To the board success is a financial balance sheet with no risk in it. To us success is a team with a chance at climbing out of the top 6 and really shaking the established top 4. A few simple additions Pienar Donovan......another Striker a Dempsey for example who'd make that dream a possibility. If we take the motto of our new shirt sponsor and JUST DO IT spend some money....take a punt and then when these players are in the bag WATCH as Moyes creates a team that CAN deliver and THEN reap the financial rewards.

Commitment to finances rather than growth is commitment to decline.

I am a blue. I will always be a blue. I wish the board could just see what they are doing to the morale of the supporters every tine they dither and fek about and lose another deal through procrastination
So for that reason I am now off the fence.

Sack the board. Get somebody in with ambition for success o the field....which will generate success in the bank

well SAID

 

[CallumGamble]

Look at Portsmouth

Why say look at Portsmouth when you could say look at PSG, City etc. NSNO

 

[njligernj]

Don't disagree with the OP but I do wonder why this summer (of all summers) would be the breaking point for anyone. The key player we were threatened to lose has knocked back the money club and we actually signed someone relatively early in the summer. So far it's our most successful summer in years (admittedly that's a very depressing thought). I admit it could all go wrong from here but so far (with this board) it's about as good as we could hope.

That said ... BK out ... I'm certainly "anti" the board but I just find it funny this year would have been the tipping point. We went about two years without spending a penny on a single player, we've had two failed stadiums, sold most of our best players, missed out on targets because (literally) we can't find 500k for Moyes to buy a player ... the list goes on and on far beyond that. Yet the summer we don't sell Baines and sign a potentially decent player early is too much?

Glad you're on the bandwagon mate anyway mate. One less person to clap for the ---- next time he's on the big screen.

 

[fandjango]

To be fair mate I don't think the suggestion was to just buy our way out. It's about financial accountability. Most of us will recognise that with about £10-15mm to spend (and what a difference it would make to our bargaining power if the rest of the market knew this was available) we could bring in the final few pieces of the jigsaw. The question is why is this not available? Sky has just materially upped its contribution to Prem teams, the banks are apparently off our backs now, and there is also the blatantly unexplained £28million of 'other expenses' in the last financial year - when we're struggling to put together £2 mill to buy Pienaar, £28 mill is a gaping big hole. So, as it has become customary to ask - WHERE'S THE MONEY BILL????

Exactly my point thanks......

 

[toffeejack]

i have always been a believer that they should have taken the odd risk here and now and i don't mean splash 30 million, just the odd 5 or 6 over what would normally be the budget (atm £0). we have a lot of saleable assets which they could make this money back from eventually if the risk didn't work out as this is what seems to be the most important. i honestly don't see how kenwright can truly say he is a loyal blue. if i owned the club i loved, of course i would not want to give it up easily, but if i could see a potential buyer that would take the team forward at the expense of me getting less money than i wanted, then i'd ****ing do that. i'm a guy who's tight with my money but probably the only thing that wouldn't make me be this way would be everton.

yes people will say a foreign owner will be bad etc. but if they provide us with good funds which eventually leads to success then i won't really give much of a care who is in charge. i do agree that it is nice not to be owned by a sheik, but the world is not perfect and we won't be getting a lifelong billionaire evertonian to take the reigns. don't hate kenwright as a person, but the way he and his fellow monkeys are treating our club has gone past laughable now, we need to make sure he understands this wrath though. nice guys finish last

 

[Chang Elephant]

I honestly think the idea of him as a sentimental fan over his head is bollocks propaganda. He's in it to make money, simple as.

Totally agreed, but the 41% that voted for Kirkby don't know what ****ing day it is. The club can and do tell them anything and it's lapped up.

 

[bluenose125]

i have always been a believer that they should have taken the odd risk here and now and i don't mean splash 30 million, just the odd 5 or 6 over what would normally be the budget (atm £0). we have a lot of saleable assets which they could make this money back from eventually if the risk didn't work out as this is what seems to be the most important. i honestly don't see how kenwright can truly say he is a loyal blue. if i owned the club i loved, of course i would not want to give it up easily, but if i could see a potential buyer that would take the team forward at the expense of me getting less money than i wanted, then i'd ****ing do that. i'm a guy who's tight with my money but probably the only thing that wouldn't make me be this way would be everton.

yes people will say a foreign owner will be bad etc. but if they provide us with good funds which eventually leads to success then i won't really give much of a care who is in charge. i do agree that it is nice not to be owned by a sheik, but the world is not perfect and we won't be getting a lifelong billionaire evertonian to take the reigns. don't hate kenwright as a person, but the way he and his fellow monkeys are treating our club has gone past laughable now, we need to make sure he understands this wrath though. nice guys finish last

EXACTLY thats what i meant, the clubs way over valued and should be sold to someone who has the money to invest regardless of nationality (the arabs came and went, the indians surposedly came and went) so if he loves the club he should lower the price.

 

[ijjysmith]

Brilliant rant.

I predict there will be 17 threads just like this before the season starts.

 

[nigelcoyb]

Agree with the OP and I'm of the same generation the problem is we have a generation fed on garbage, how many times do you get "remember the relegation battles" as though historically we are Charlton.

Add in the vast majority don't question ANYTHING and the net result is - no relegation fight - no protest.

In fact people clap, I don't know whether to admire the loyalty or condemn the thick as a brick mentality.

Sorry you've arrived at this point mate it comes to us all eventually.

 

[bourneblue]

And here's me thinking the OP was a long standing Bill basher,reading back through his posts it would appear so.
Hmm, the mind boggles.

 

[steele]

To run a club with Evertons limitations is really hard. With low match day income, none rich owner and a big debt makes it hard to compete with the like of Tottenham and Arsenal.

Regarding Pranjic; he's 31 yrs old and I don't think Moyes ever wanted him. Maybe he needed 1-2 yrs before adopting PL?
Pienaar; has delivered every time in a blue shirt, but he's 30 and looking for his last contract. With a fee about 5 mill and maybe demanding 4 years (?) on 55-60k/w (?) it can be a bit risky. Is there other players out there, that are younger and can be at the same level? All that has to be considered before signing the contract.

I've no thoughts about the Board, but believe Bill when he declare himself as a true Evertonian.

 

[Deleted member 28206]

You're all doing my head in. No wonder Danny bans everyone!

 

[Blackwatch1878]

Heart well and truly sank when the Time line for the Ring fenced Kings dock money came and went without a explanation or any kind of apology to his so called fellow blues after having the dream carrot dangled in front of our noses then swiped away in a instant , I came to conclusion of "Uh Oh" , "what have we got here" as to the type of people that have took over the club , and that was just the start of it

 

[Village Idiot]

Totally agreed, but the 41% that voted for Kirkby don't know what ****ing day it is. The club can and do tell them anything and it's lapped up.

One of those sneering 'superior' types I was used to seeing on kipper. I expect you used to be on there as well.

The 59% that voted for Kirkby voted for what was in the prospectus. Eventually what we were going to get was nothing like the prospectus. Many of us wouldn't vote for it now.

This your cue to tell us that if we were mega-intelligent like you we'd have known that already. Wonder what drives people to feel a need to feel more intelligent than everyone else?