Current Affairs Shemima Begum

[coollino]

I think she forfeited her human rights as soon as she affiliated herself with ISIS. What human rights does that organisation offer to the innocent people it captures, tortures and slaughters?

Sorry love, you can't come back from that kind of radicalisation. Let her rot where she is - any amount of taxpayers' money is too much to prosecute / protect / lock her up.

At the age of 15 you know right from wrong, and if you're old enough to travel out of the country without anybody knowing, you're old enough to understand the repercussions of joining a terrorist outfit.

I have no idea why she's allowed so many court appeals. She needs erasing from this country and have an international warrant put on her sorry ass so she's arrested if she dares try to enter another country. With a bit of luck she will wind up killing herself and doing everybody a favour.

I wholeheartedly disagree with people who say "but that's the law - they are her human rights". Human rights shouldn't apply to terrorists, which she most certainly is.

So suspect terrorists shouldn't have a fair trial? Say if the suspicion came from a stop search, they should just go to jail or be kicked out the country?

Or are you saying this suspected terrorist shouldn't have a fair trial and other ones should?

You seem to be talking like this is a TV episode or something.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think she forfeited her human rights as soon as she affiliated herself with ISIS. What human rights does that organisation offer to the innocent people it captures, tortures and slaughters?

Sorry love, you can't come back from that kind of radicalisation. Let her rot where she is - any amount of taxpayers' money is too much to prosecute / protect / lock her up.

At the age of 15 you know right from wrong, and if you're old enough to travel out of the country without anybody knowing, you're old enough to understand the repercussions of joining a terrorist outfit.

I have no idea why she's allowed so many court appeals. She needs erasing from this country and have an international warrant put on her sorry ass so she's arrested if she dares try to enter another country. With a bit of luck she will wind up killing herself and doing everybody a favour.

I wholeheartedly disagree with people who say "but that's the law - they are her human rights". Human rights shouldn't apply to terrorists, which she most certainly is.

Who the UK Government at the time deem to be terrorists...

The 'Stansted 15' Case Threatens Civil Liberties in the U.K.

The U.K. government charged peaceful protestors under anti-terror laws

time.com

 

[arminisgod]

So suspect terrorists shouldn't have a fair trial? Say if the suspicion came from a stop search, they should just go to jail or be kicked out the country?

Or are you saying this suspected terrorist shouldn't have a fair trial and other ones should?

You seem to be talking like this is a TV episode or something.

did she board the wrong plane?

 

[ForeverBlue92]

For a 'centre-left' person who is strong on law and order, you don't seem to give two hoots about upholding the law.

The laws soft on scum like her hence why I know the ramifications and reality of her coming back here.

If she was slammed up for life in isolation free from ever being released and of being able to radicalise others inside then fair enough but we all know that wouldn't happen dont we.

 

[coollino]

did she board the wrong plane?

So is everyone in Syria a terrorist? Showing your true colours here.

 

[coollino]

The laws soft on scum like her hence why I know the ramifications and reality of her coming back here.

If she was slammed up for life in isolation free from ever being released and of being able to radicalise others inside then fair enough but we all know that wouldn't happen dont we.

You have been radicalised, in a way.

 

[arminisgod]

So is everyone in Syria a terrorist? Showing your true colours here.

Everyone who knowingly got on a flight to ISIS controlled territory knew what they were doing. To engage in terror.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

You have been radicalised, in a way.

There is two types of people in this world - good and evil.

The day some good people wake up and realise evil will always be evil no matter much "compassion" you show them the better we'll all be in the long run.

And by evil I don't mean stealing a twix bar from the local shop...

 

[Jebus_lives]

The laws soft on scum like her hence why I know the ramifications and reality of her coming back here.

If she was slammed up for life in isolation free from ever being released and of being able to radicalise others inside then fair enough but we all know that wouldn't happen dont we.

The law doesn't pick and choose it's decisions and sentencing just to rile you up.

 

[Jebus_lives]

There is two types of people in this world - good and evil.

The day some good people wake up and realise evil will always be evil no matter much "compassion" you show them the better we'll all be in the long run.

And by evil I don't mean stealing a twix bar from the local shop...

You'd make a tremendous witchfinder.

 

[Brennan]

There is two types of people in this world - good and evil.

The day some good people wake up and realise evil will always be evil no matter much "compassion" you show them the better we'll all be in the long run.

And by evil I don't mean stealing a twix bar from the local shop...

That’s nonsense really.

People are a product of their environment and circumstance. Very few if any people are born “evil” or “good”.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

You'd make a tremendous witchfinder.

I dont believe in fairytales mate.

What I do believe is murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists are scum and will always be scum no matter how much someone wants to pretend these people are just good folk gone down the wrong path.

We all have free will and choose the path we take and if you choose to harm others you deserve no compassion in my eyes.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

That’s nonsense really.

People are a product of their environment and circumstance. Very few if any people are born “evil” or “good”.

Not at all - I grew up in relative poverty I didnt once decide to burgle someones house and hold a knife up to someones throat demanding money - what makes me different?

My arl fella used to be "disciplined" growing up with heavy beatings with a belt by his dad (by todays standards probably considered abuse and righly so) but he never once beat me or my siblings / ma growing up - what makes him different?

Everyone has free will dont be spoon fed this rubbish that every murderer and rapist only does what they do because they had a hard upbringing.

Plenty of people have a hard upbringing but choose to do the right thing.

Choice.

 

[Bishop Thumpety-Thump]

I dont believe in fairytales mate.

What I do believe is murderers, rapists, child molesters, terrorists are scum and will always be scum no matter how much someone wants to pretend these people are just good folk gone down the wrong path.

We all have free will and choose the path we take and if you choose to harm others you deserve no compassion in my eyes.

With respect, you need help mate.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

With respect, you need help mate.

Nah the daft arse far left need help hence why the Tories have free reign in this country.

Completely out of touch with reality yet think they are right in their echo chamber of self righteousness.