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Pblueman
Player Valuation: £25m
35000 shares at current value of approx£2000 per share puts the ownership value of 100% @ £70mil, plus cost of new stadium say £300mil plus various "operating costs" and squad investment + debt. you're looking at a conservative (very conservative) outlay for new owners at approx £450-500 mil. it aint going to happen fellas.
Nah lets start with step 1 - buy out the leeches shares, get rid and start fresh.
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
Exactly; there's always an excuse, no matter how small the club being sold is.
I just hope one day I'll win the war against myself and learn to love Bill Kenwright.
..I suspect this is right. Somebody with deep pockets is required that doesn't necessarily think of 'investment'. I'm afraid this board have not strategically positioned the club to make us an attractive proposition for somebody looking to make a return on their monies.
As has already been said, our history isn't really important to investors. We have a good history, but we're not one of the European elite in terms of European wins etc.
What's more important is the area we're in. As has been mentioned, Fulham, QPR et al are in very wealthy parts of the country. We're not.
One of the main motivations for building a new stadium is to get more corporate facilities to allow us to earn more money, but compare the number of companies on the doorstep of Fulham/QPR to those on the doorstep of Everton.
I really don't think the stadium is the issue here, as relatively speaking it's not a ball breaker for any deal. The issue is how much money can a new stadium make should it be built. I mean the Kirkby stadium was said to bring in an extra £5m a year or something. It's hardly worth bothering for that kind of money. Compare it to how much extra the Emirates is earning Arsenal, and they're probably bringing in not far shy of £5m extra every bloody game.
We've seen with all the increases in TV money that they just about cover our wages, indeed our wages/turnover ratio has gone up faster than the increase in TV cash, so that isn't gonna attract anyone.
We can't do much to change our neighbourhood, so it kinda leaves the overseas income. Man Utd earn as much from foreign fans as they do from local ones (I think more actually). We're nowhere near that right now. Liverpool have attracted buyers because they can offer that overseas income. It's an area we could really use improving in a huge way, which makes it all the sadder that the club do so little to work with sites like this one.
What's more important is the area we're in. As has been mentioned, Fulham, QPR et al are in very wealthy parts of the country. We're not.
One of the main motivations for building a new stadium is to get more corporate facilities to allow us to earn more money, but compare the number of companies on the doorstep of Fulham/QPR to those on the doorstep of Everton.
I really don't think the stadium is the issue here, as relatively speaking it's not a ball breaker for any deal. The issue is how much money can a new stadium make should it be built. I mean the Kirkby stadium was said to bring in an extra £5m a year or something. It's hardly worth bothering for that kind of money. Compare it to how much extra the Emirates is earning Arsenal, and they're probably bringing in not far shy of £5m extra every bloody game.
We've seen with all the increases in TV money that they just about cover our wages, indeed our wages/turnover ratio has gone up faster than the increase in TV cash, so that isn't gonna attract anyone.
We can't do much to change our neighbourhood, so it kinda leaves the overseas income. Man Utd earn as much from foreign fans as they do from local ones (I think more actually). We're nowhere near that right now. Liverpool have attracted buyers because they can offer that overseas income. It's an area we could really use improving in a huge way, which makes it all the sadder that the club do so little to work with sites like this one.
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
It's a lot cheaper to build in Walton than Fulham. Likely that the local planners will be far more forthcoming too. I also believe fulhams ground has listed status in places?
Sunderland have shown that even in an absolute ****hole of a place(no offense as I have a lot of time & respect for the place) they can draw corporate revenue. Liverpool has far more to offer than the north east IMO.
If ever we were to be sold it'd be done now.
Sunderland have shown that even in an absolute ****hole of a place(no offense as I have a lot of time & respect for the place) they can draw corporate revenue. Liverpool has far more to offer than the north east IMO.
If ever we were to be sold it'd be done now.
steken1
Player Valuation: £70m
I don't know the area well enough to say to be honest, but I'm fairly sure it's going to be a consideration.
If you compare the Gross Value Added (GVA) for Manchester and Liverpool for instance, it's about 7 times the size. It's gonna be a factor for companies.
ijjysmith
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I'M NOT LAUGHING
IT'S A REALLY TERRIBLE JOKE REALLY
Carlito
Player Valuation: £40m
The location excuse doesn't wash with me either, not least because the other three big north-west clubs have managed to attract major backing, as have the two nothing clubs in the north-east. The stadium is an issue but there are options available to an owner who doesn't need the entire project to be planned and financed by a supermarket.
I'd be very surprised if Fulham were shifting more corporate hospitality packages than Everton, and I'm sure it'd cost a huge amount of money just to get them challenging for Europe. As somebody has already mentioned, for the money Tony Fernandes spent getting QPR promoted and then relegated he could have laid the foundations for long-term success at a club such as Everton.
I'm convinced that the reason Kenwright is still here is because he doesn't want to go. If he was looking for a sale then there wouldn't be such an outrageous asking price.
Neither Sunderland or Newcastle have obtained investment to the level that would make much difference to us. Manchester is more attractive financially than Liverpool, whilst the RS are bigger than us.
Bluenose1995
Player Valuation: £25m
It amazes me how after so long people still think kenwright is looking for a buyer he isnt, he is looking for an INVESTOR, someone who will buy a stake in the club, invest in the club yet still have the likes of kenwright and Earl sat in the boardroom taking the plaudits unfortunately most billionaires will either want full control for the profit sideof rthings or for the ego side of things (ie 'the abramovich era,)
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