Sam Allardyce

[mkrudden]

Gyli, Pickord, Seamus, Walcott, Rooney, Keane (soon anyrate). Niasse is actualy doing what hes paid to do. DCL improving, as is Tom. Cucu is not great, but at least puts a shift in. Gana.

So 11 of the team we like? As I agree with the above.
Yet we seldom discuss the above do we, as a fan base and community, in positive lights?
Keane, Sig', Rooney... they all get grief far more than they get praise.

 

[evertonarntwe]

Didn't we draw 0-0?

We did draw like but we didn' move out our half for 90 minutes and got very lucky

 

[mkrudden]

We did draw like but we didn' move out our half for 90 minutes and got very lucky

i'm not saying we played well.
But we didn't roll over.
We got a point against Chelsea.

 

[everton1953]

Need to be shot of both in the summer let's be honest the pair of them would be nowhere near a top 6 side

Er, no, but we are nowhere near a top 6 side, and he did not cause that. So what if we are and may be for a year or two a 8th/9th side at best? Is that beyond his abilities to? What wonderful top manager do you think we can import who would seriously take on a team which is struggling to be 9th?

 

[4737carlin]

Some Scotish guy on Talk Sport now saying Scotland should of gone for Sam!!!

 

[evertonarntwe]

i'm not saying we played well.
But we didn't roll over.
We got a point against Chelsea.

Have to agree to disagree then pal. Because the only difference between that point and say the United game was Chelsea didn' put the chances away. We were woeful

 

[Eggsyblueskin]

Er, no, but we are nowhere near a top 6 side, and he did not cause that. So what if we are and may be for a year or two a 8th/9th side at best? Is that beyond his abilities to? What wonderful top manager do you think we can import who would seriously take on a team which is struggling to be 9th?

If he can keep us as a mid table side for two years why not keep him for ten years , I mean if that is literally the absolute best we are hoping for.?
Personally I would like to hope for something better round the corner even if it never comes to fruition. I’d like a manager who inspires me, who gives me belief in the possibility that we could have a better future.
Allardyce just fills me with despair and a future of mediocrity. In over a thousand games he has never produced a single team I have admired , even fleetingly. He is merely Pulis or Pardew in a fat suit.

 

[Stanley Parker]

And heading for his 3rd club. Stability we need, not a job hopper.

Do you think Barcelona are going to come in for Silva?

Would that be such a bad thing?

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Er, no, but we are nowhere near a top 6 side, and he did not cause that. So what if we are and may be for a year or two a 8th/9th side at best? Is that beyond his abilities to? What wonderful top manager do you think we can import who would seriously take on a team which is struggling to be 9th?

The aim of the owner is to crack the top 6 so we have to recruit players good enough for them or else we will never catch up and hanging on to has beens wont bridge the gap either

It isnt good enough to spend the money we have to finish 8th or 9th for a year or two, the only way it would be is if we had a very young squad who were improving year after year

There are so many mangers we could get better than BS(my god does he spout it) and for a lot less money you only have to look at the managers that "wonderful clubs" such as Leicester and Watford have appointed in recent years.

 

[bluestevon]

i'm not saying we played well.
But we didn't roll over.
We got a point against Chelsea.

We never managed s shot on target against a Chelsea in turmoil at goodison mate, an absolute cowardly performance it was.

 

[bluestevon]

It's mad how deep down the antisam crew know how boss he is because they are already playing down his remarkable relegation battle to Europe story before it even happens. Like I think he's great but I don't know if we could get the remarkable achievement of looking at the championship to looking at Europa.

But the people who hate him and think he's crap think he will and are playing it down! You couldn't make it up.

You kind of are just making it up though, anyway, carry on trolling.

 

[catcherintherye]

Up until the return derby last season and Coleman's injury then we had an outside shot at 4th place still mate, after the loss and the injury the team and manager just settled for seventh and we mailed in the last set of games, the reality was we weren't actually that far off top 4/6 last season, and where a mile above the rest of the league as well.

The teams in the top 6 - not sure if any of them improved much besides city really, arsenal certainly have gone back imo, spurs, Chelsea, united, the rs, all around a similar level. Just we went backwards hugely.

For the position we where at, and the money spent, the owner was clearly expecting us to turn it into a distinct top 7 and for us to push higher, just so happens that we wasted that money and created a mess of a squad though.

The same target should be there for the club though, and with proper recruitment, it is achievable to push into the top 6 etc.

I saw that table of how much a squad took to assemble where we were 10th in the world. There are obvious caveats, in a world where football inflation has not just been growing by accelerating rapidly over the last 2 years when we've bought it isn't as clear cut as it shows, but we are the odd name out of the top 15/20. Pretty much every other team is either challenging for titles in their league or challenging for European glory. None are in relegation trouble.

You can look at this two ways. Firstly that we have made an enormous mess of the last 2 years. Everyone understands that but nobody quite knows exactly where to point the finger. In all honesty all of them have to accept some culpability and nobody at the club could complain if they were removed. There's no shortage of criticism, and in many ways we are growing desensitised to just what a mess we've made. You could well make a case this has been the biggest waste of money in our clubs history. It is also one of the worst waste of money in PL history.

That being said, they are not terrible players. We may have overpaid but part of the issue is bad management and coaches who have wanted to constantly buy new players and harshly discard others.

The other way to view this is that we can't keep getting it wrong, and if the investment we have had can be sustained for another 2-3 windows, a decent young coach is brought in and a sense of stability given, the potential to turn the situation around is enormous because we have made such a mess of things. Get the best from this squad and recruit sensibly and we can get close to the top 4 quite quickly in my view. We are nearly 7th having had an abysmal season, where it's hard to pinpoint a single player who I'd say has been "alright" this season. Holgate? Pickford? Niasse? More to come from the first 2 as well, never mind the rest.

Ultimately if you have a squad which is in the top 10 most expensively assembled squads, eventually you get it right and compete for honours. It's almost impossible not too. Thats without getting the structure right, which I live in hope we will do come the summer (though not expectation!)

I look at the sides above us. Arsenal could go into transition post Wenger. Spurs I think will fall back, as they begin to lose players and have to fund a stadium that will be 2-3 x more expensive than hours without a sweetheart loan deal that we've acquired. Chelsea I also think are showing signs they will fall away. They can't outbid teams anymore and I wonder if they can recover from this slump? Again ground development may have to be paid for from transfers. LFC have a similar issue, to help pay for the Anfield Road redevelopment.

 

[Badge1878]

Some Scotish guy on Talk Sport now saying Scotland should of gone for Sam!!!

Should have. In fact, wish they had - would have done well there - needs to repair his reputation on the international stage - it'd been a good move. The further the better from this club the better.

World Cup may offer some future managerial opportunities for BFS to leave us on a basis that sees his ego remain alive & we can move on too. Clutching I know, but it's got to that stage with me. Let's just shake hands end of season, say a few insincere words about each other and move on.

 

[Efcjake]

Everyone understands that but nobody quite knows exactly where to point the finger.

Not true mate. I know exactly where I'm pointing it.

 

[Cork Evertonian]

From Terry McAllister on the red echo's fans view article.

Cenk Tosun is the latest player to arrive at Finch Farm this season, play a handful of minutes and then be left out in the cold. What a positive message the club are sending out to potential new signings in the summer: Come to Everton where you will be openly criticised in the press by the manager and not get a chance to prove yourself.

The Turkish striker is not alone of course as Davy Klaassen , Sandro Ramirez and Ademola Lookman have each suffered similar treatment at the hands of Sam Allardyce in the last few weeks. When RB Leipzig, Napoli and Sevilla are in for players who don’t make the Everton bench, the problem is with Everton.

Allardyce loves to talk about how difficult players find it to adapt to the Premier League and the pressures of a big club. The one struggling to adapt in reality is Allardyce himself. The disgraced former England coach doesn’t seem to understand why supporters are unhappy with what they’re seeing when our current position would have been celebrated at all his previous clubs.

At this point of his tenure there’s usually purrs from the national media of “Big Sam does it again” and he isn’t able to grasp that two wins in ten games hasn’t actually “shut the doubters up” as he put it. Evertonians are not just content to have runs of five games with two shots on goal so long as they don’t get relegated. Everton is bigger and better than that.

Hopefully there is truth to the links with Marcel Brands and Paulo Fonseca and that the club are looking to put this chapter of the club’s history behind them soon. Six points to go.