Current Affairs Sadiq Khan......London Mayor.....

[peteblue]

See Khan is blaming the middle class in London for fuelling the recent rise in violence and crime in London. Odious little toad of a man.

In some respects he’s right. They are the ones using the drugs and the gangs and some deaths are from those supplying the drugs. I cannot abide the man, but there is truth is this assertion.......

 

[Yoda]

In some respects he’s right. They are the ones using the drugs and the gangs and some deaths are from those supplying the drugs. I cannot abide the man, but there is truth is this assertion.......

I see it as another deflection from the main reasons for knife crime and violence. A small % yes, but most major cities have massive amounts of cocaine taking individuals and the increase in this sector has not shot up at the same rates of London

 

[peteblue]

I see it as another deflection from the main reasons for knife crime and violence. A small % yes, but most major cities have massive amounts of cocaine taking individuals and the increase in this sector has not shot up at the same rates of London

Indeed......

 

[orchard]

I see it as another deflection from the main reasons for knife crime and violence. A small % yes, but most major cities have massive amounts of cocaine taking individuals and the increase in this sector has not shot up at the same rates of London

Sure about that?

 

[Yoda]

Sure about that?

Is it Birmingham that has closest? See acid attacks have risen at more or less same rate as London, but homicides were up 44% in London by April this year

 

[orchard]

Is it Birmingham that has closest? See acid attacks have risen at more or less same rate as London, but homicides were up 44% in London by April this year

I can't remember exactly, but I saw figures a couple of weeks ago that, iirc, were comparable increases to London, if not more.

 

[Yoda]

I can't remember exactly, but I saw figures a couple of weeks ago that, iirc, were comparable increases to London, if not more.

Metropolitan police said 44% rest of uk 22%, not sure what the exact for Birmingham was but acid attacks if I recall correctly are right up there.

 

[jaycee]

I see it as another deflection from the main reasons for knife crime and violence. A small % yes, but most major cities have massive amounts of cocaine taking individuals and the increase in this sector has not shot up at the same rates of London

What do you think is the main reason behind the violence?

 

[Yoda]

What do you think is the main reason behind the violence?

A few things, main one in my opinion is the stop and search Khan put a stop too.

 

[jaycee]

A few things, main one in my opinion is the stop and search Khan put a stop too.

I always thought stop and search was a policing policy,rather than a mayoral decision

 

[Yoda]

I always thought stop and search was a policing policy,rather than a mayoral decision

Khan used his mayor powers to stop it about 2 years ago

 

[jaycee]

Khan used his mayor powers to stop it about 2 years agoView attachment 48239

Like I said I thought it was police policy,which he wouldnt have any real control over,channel 5 ran a week long look at the problems in London,though I dont like the channel its self and they tend to dramatize there was a few interesting points of view on there

 

[Harryflashman]

A few things, main one in my opinion is the stop and search Khan put a stop too.

Like I said I thought it was police policy,which he wouldnt have any real control over,channel 5 ran a week long look at the problems in London,though I dont like the channel its self and they tend to dramatize there was a few interesting points of view on there

From 2014

The home secretary, Theresa May, is to introduce a "comprehensive package" reforming the use of police stop-and-search powers after telling MPs that as many as a quarter of a million street searches last year were probably carried out illegally.
The home secretary said she wanted the battery of revised codes, best practice schemes and new methods of accountability to lead to a significant reduction in the use of stop and search, more intelligence-led targeted operations, and better arrest ratios.

From a recent spectator article

Theresa May has a very big failure to her name, but strangely few people seem to want to pick her up on it. The latest crime figures show a sharp increase in recorded offences in England and Wales, especially in knife crime, which rose 21 per cent to 37,443 incidents. This continues a trend which began four years ago, since when the number of recorded knife offences has risen by half.

It reverses an equally sharp fall in recorded knife crime between 2010, when Theresa May became Home Secretary, and 2014. What happened to bring about the end of what looks like a very successful period of tackling knife crime? Obviously, there are multiple factors involved in crime, but it is impossible to ignore a speech made by Theresa May on 30 April 2014, in which she ordered police to observe new rules on stop and search powers, inspired by a review which had revealed that people from a black or other ethnic minority background were seven times more likely to be stopped and searched.

‘Nobody wins when stop and search is misapplied’, she said. ‘It can be an enormous waste of police time and, when innocent people are stopped and searched for no good reason, it is hugely damaging to the relationship between the police and the public’.

 

[tsubaki]

Khan used his mayor powers to stop it about 2 years agoView attachment 48239

I wonder why you didn't link to the rest of the article? Could it be because of what it actually said?

Sadiq Khan today promised to drive down the use of stop and search by the Metropolitan Police if he is elected to City Hall.

The Labour mayoral hopeful said he would do everything within his power to continue the reduction of the policing tool. In London stop and search has fallen by 54 per cent since 2010, but the use of a more intelligence-led, targeted approach has led to thousands more arrests.

Tooting MP Mr Khan, pictured, also pledged to strengthen rules that prevent officers stopping people simply on the basis of their skin colour, by changing the law to make it illegal. He said: “The last few years have shown what can be achieved when there’s a concerted effort to reduce the overuse of stop and search.

“But there’s still much more to be done, and if I’m Mayor I’ll do all in my power to further cut its use. Overuse of stop and search can have a dramatic effect on communities. It undermines public confidence in our police if Londoners are being stopped and searched for no good reason.”

The Met dramatically reduced the number of random stop and searches in 2012 in an effort to improve relations with black and ethnic minority communities.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...my-power-to-cut-stop-and-search-a2924706.html

 

[peteblue]

I wonder why you didn't link to the rest of the article? Could it be because of what it actually said?



https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...my-power-to-cut-stop-and-search-a2924706.html

It is a very tricky decision the stop and search conundrum. One the one hand it discovers bad people, on the other some good people feel aggrieved, and then of course there is the racial element of stopping those apparently most likely to commit crime. For me the police should stop and search anyone they want, Black, white, orange or whoever. Old and young. The ones that complain will invariably be those who are more likely to commit crime..., but if it reduces crime we should all be supportive.......