Ross Barkley - Thanks, and goodbye.

[goodisonopheliac]

In terms of mentality Lampard and Barkley are like night and day.

Lampard has a functioning brain, for one thing. OK, I'm being harsh but Barkley's not exactly very intelligent, on or off the pitch.

Also, isn't Conte a head coach rather than a manager? If so, that means he doesn't have anything to do with transfers, I thought.

 

[longers]

Lampard has a functioning brain, for one thing. OK, I'm being harsh but Barkley's not exactly very intelligent, on or off the pitch.

Also, isn't Conte a head coach rather than a manager? If so, that means he doesn't have anything to do with transfers, I thought.

He openly admits he has no say on transfers and he seems fine with this.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Chelsea are hardly short of midfield players. Barkley will have a lot of competition if he doesn't want to appear in just the Carabao Cup.

Kanté Drinkwater Bakayoko Alonso Willian Pedro Fàbregas Hazard Zappacosta - that's 9 already for four or five places.

 

[longers]

Chelsea are hardly short of midfield players. Barkley will have a lot of competition if he doesn't want to appear in just the Carabao Cup.

Kanté Drinkwater Bakayoko Alonso Willian Pedro Fàbregas Hazard Zappacasta - that's 9 already for four or five places.

Bakayoko is having a mare of a season with Chelsea fans already wanting to get rid. Alonso and Zappacosta won’t conflict with Barkley, same goes for Kante. Willian and Pedro are both strongly linked with moves away at end of the season and Fàbregas is now in his 30s.

I believe he’ll have plenty of chances to impress, maybe not straight away but over the next year... whether he can take those chances is anyone’s guess.

 

[Acelisc008]

He's been signed by Chelsea, he's not a conte player. I'll be very surprised if he plays many games there. 2-3 years down the line he'll be linked to teams like Stoke/Newcastle.

 

[longers]

He's been signed by Chelsea, he's not a conte player. I'll be very surprised if he plays many games there. 2-3 years down the line he'll be linked to teams like Stoke/Newcastle.

Give him an iconic shirt number they’ve been saving and then never play him... sounds likely...

Its not a popular opinion here but I think a lot of people are in for a shock.

 

[Verbal Kint]

Ross Barkley - Thanks, and goodbye.

So, the time has arrived for Ross to go. I won't belabour the obvious reasons in which Ross sees a Champions League regular chance, or a millionaire lifestyle, or trophy opportunities or playing at the very highest levels. I have loads of potential examples to use against Ross such as Rodwell, or Dan Gosling - both of which have spectacularly exceeded expectations of any footballers dream of going on to better things.

Bitter, is what we're often referred to as because of a number of pseudo-political reasons, but let me humor you by suggesting our bitterness is more suited to those in control of the club. Since we're now playing in the big leagues in terms of financial at least, we're spending £20m, 30m, 40m, 50m, on players and we will probably continue to do so - some will be a hit, some will not. This points to a lack of maturity at the competition at a level you're not comfortable with. Which we're not.

Back to Ross, Ross in some senses now becomes a better Evertonian than the man supposedly at the helm, having been labeled a liar by our new accountant, I mean majority shareholder and best mate of Jim White, Farhard Moshiri. How? How does leaving a club now make him a better Evertonian? Well - think of it like this Ross has been at Everton since he was a kid, not a kid as referred to by the fatties in the Gladwys Street as he hits a pass that misses its target, but a kid that was under the guidance Sid Benson and his growth to England International, and one time Everton Captain and seeing the calibre of players around him has opened his eyes.

Ross leaves to try and improve, like anyone in a level of comfort you can either sit around and take a way and never really challenge yourself, being content in the belief you've got an entire fan base behind you, or you can choose to try and reach the pinnacle of your capabilities. Ross has looked at the recent goings on at Everton which include:

- New Stadium.
- Sales of Lukaku, Stones.
- Sackings of Manager(s).
- Publicly being called out in public by senior board members and manager(s)
- Getting chinned in a moody bar

So, in light of some of the worst football recently ever witnessed in many Evertonians lifetimes, Ross has given 15+ years to Everton trying to reach levels that he and others deserve. He couldn't do this on his so we brought in players around him to try and help him, those players flourished and left as will Ross - The problem is not Ross, the problem is the complete lack of stable leadership at the top of the club, bit instead we find out through Jim White who's going where and that Ross had a great time having a medical last summer, this makes a mockery of Evertonians for a number of reasons.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum - Ross, when only the best will do, and it's not Everton - the only option is to do the best for you.

Good luck kidda

All very good and sweet that. Just forgetting the small matter that his leg break was so bad it was feared he might never play again. Moyes gave him a new contract to allay any fears.

But that really doesn't fit the narrative that he could have went for £35m in the Summer but decides to Stitch us up for £20m.

Imagine if he wasn't an Evertonian

 

[Verbal Kint]

And by the way I think he will be a massive success at Chelsea, he has it all.

 

[CountyRoadKid]

And by the way I think he will be a massive success at Chelsea, he has it all.

Same.

He'll have a medal haul to rival Wayne when he comes back to us in ten years to play out his career in front of his own people.

Why can't people just be happy for him?

Good luck to him. Our Diamond.

 

[Kev50]

Same.

He'll have a medal haul to rival Wayne when he comes back to us in ten years to play out his career in front of his own people.

Why can't people just be happy for him?

Good luck to him. Our Diamond.

Your user name seems like the sort a red nose would give themselves if they wanted to pass themselves off as an Evertonian

 

[sageyefc]

Same.

He'll have a medal haul to rival Wayne when he comes back to us in ten years to play out his career in front of his own people.

Why can't people just be happy for him?

Good luck to him. Our Diamond.

Did you wish coutinho and Suarez luck when they binned yous off

 

[Barnfred 55]

Ross Barkley - Thanks, and goodbye.

So, the time has arrived for Ross to go. I won't belabour the obvious reasons in which Ross sees a Champions League regular chance, or a millionaire lifestyle, or trophy opportunities or playing at the very highest levels. I have loads of potential examples to use against Ross such as Rodwell, or Dan Gosling - both of which have spectacularly exceeded expectations of any footballers dream of going on to better things.

Bitter, is what we're often referred to as because of a number of pseudo-political reasons, but let me humor you by suggesting our bitterness is more suited to those in control of the club. Since we're now playing in the big leagues in terms of financial at least, we're spending £20m, 30m, 40m, 50m, on players and we will probably continue to do so - some will be a hit, some will not. This points to a lack of maturity at the competition at a level you're not comfortable with. Which we're not.

Back to Ross, Ross in some senses now becomes a better Evertonian than the man supposedly at the helm, having been labeled a liar by our new accountant, I mean majority shareholder and best mate of Jim White, Farhard Moshiri. How? How does leaving a club now make him a better Evertonian? Well - think of it like this Ross has been at Everton since he was a kid, not a kid as referred to by the fatties in the Gladwys Street as he hits a pass that misses its target, but a kid that was under the guidance Sid Benson and his growth to England International, and one time Everton Captain and seeing the calibre of players around him has opened his eyes.

Ross leaves to try and improve, like anyone in a level of comfort you can either sit around and take a way and never really challenge yourself, being content in the belief you've got an entire fan base behind you, or you can choose to try and reach the pinnacle of your capabilities. Ross has looked at the recent goings on at Everton which include:

- New Stadium.
- Sales of Lukaku, Stones.
- Sackings of Manager(s).
- Publicly being called out in public by senior board members and manager(s)
- Getting chinned in a moody bar

So, in light of some of the worst football recently ever witnessed in many Evertonians lifetimes, Ross has given 15+ years to Everton trying to reach levels that he and others deserve. He couldn't do this on his so we brought in players around him to try and help him, those players flourished and left as will Ross - The problem is not Ross, the problem is the complete lack of stable leadership at the top of the club, bit instead we find out through Jim White who's going where and that Ross had a great time having a medical last summer, this makes a mockery of Evertonians for a number of reasons.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum - Ross, when only the best will do, and it's not Everton - the only option is to do the best for you.

Good luck kidda

I agree with quite a lot of that mate but it's all very one sided.

A lot of extreme views here on both sides, but as usual the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. The club is, without doubt, being grossly mismanaged at the moment and, with the appointment of Allardyce, has regressed to pre Moyes days. Ross himself has not behaved in a way which will enamour himself with the fan base. Personally, I think a lot of that is down to him being thick and allowing himself to be influenced by his management team, but that still doesn't excuse the way he has behaved.

Ross never developed as well as we hoped and expected, but lets not forget he is still just 24 and players in his position don't usually mature for another couple of years or so. Jesse Lingard for example is a year older, and just started to show signs that he could develop into a proper playmaker.

Let's not re-write history either. For the last 4 years he's been our only true creative player and, whilst being inconsistent, we only ever really played well as a team when he played well. Anybody please quote me a game we played well over that period when Ross wasn't in the team and pulling the strings. I can't remember one. Second half against Sunderland away last season maybe?

Being our only creative player meant he was often man marked or doubled up on. Playing for Chelsea teams won't be able to do that, plus he'll be playing with better players and will have more options when in possession. If he recovers properly from his injury, I can see him being a success at Chelsea and getting a lot more game time than many on here seem to think.

I want to wish him well. I really do. But the way he has acted prevents me from doing that. Maybe we should take a cue from the Besiktas fans, many of whom now also follow Everton. Maybe not. I feel angry at the club for allowing this to happen, angry at the player for the way in which it happened, but overall a deep feeling of sadness at the prospect that the best player to come out of our academy since Rooney is going to fulfil his potential at one of our rivals and not us.

 

[Kev50]

I agree with quite a lot of that mate but it's all very one sided.

A lot of extreme views here on both sides, but as usual the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. The club is, without doubt, being grossly mismanaged at the moment and, with the appointment of Allardyce, has regressed to pre Moyes days. Ross himself has not behaved in a way which will enamour himself with the fan base. Personally, I think a lot of that is down to him being thick and allowing himself to be influenced by his management team, but that still doesn't excuse the way he has behaved.

Ross never developed as well as we hoped and expected, but lets not forget he is still just 24 and players in his position don't usually mature for another couple of years or so. Jesse Lingard for example is a year older, and just started to show signs that he could develop into a proper playmaker.

Let's not re-write history either. For the last 4 years he's been our only true creative player and, whilst being inconsistent, we only ever really played well as a team when he played well. Anybody please quote me a game we played well over that period when Ross wasn't in the team and pulling the strings. I can't remember one. Second half against Sunderland away last season maybe?

Being our only creative player meant he was often man marked or doubled up on. Playing for Chelsea teams won't be able to do that, plus he'll be playing with better players and will have more options when in possession. If he recovers properly from his injury, I can see him being a success at Chelsea and getting a lot more game time than many on here seem to think.

I want to wish him well. I really do. But the way he has acted prevents me from doing that. Maybe we should take a cue from the Besiktas fans, many of whom now also follow Everton. Maybe not. I feel angry at the club for allowing this to happen, angry at the player for the way in which it happened, but overall a deep feeling of sadness at the prospect that the best player to come out of our academy since Rooney is going to fulfil his potential at one of our rivals and not us.

Mismanagement of the club? What were they supposed to do when the little bellend decided to run his contract down? Sell him to another club? We did that, but Roscoe wouldn’t play ball, and pulled out.
Some Evertonians seem to think we have been prevented from taking our rightful position at the top of the tree these last thirty years just because we were mismanaged. I wonder do Newcastle and Villa and Sunderland and Wolves and Leeds fans all think the same, but for the ‘mismanagement’ they’d all be Man United. We’ve done amazingly well for a team in Walton to hold on to a top 7 berth for the last 20 years, through shrewd management and recruitment. But there’s no divine right for us to be there. We could do a Wloves tomorrow, drop down and never come back up.

 

[goodisonopheliac]

And by the way I think he will be a massive success at Chelsea, he has it all.

It happened to Rooney. Knowing our luck, it will happen to Barkley too.

 

[Efcjake]

It's disgusting that the lad hasn't even given us an Eto'o copy paste letter.