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As i have explanined i think we look a team that knows its not going to score, i think that has drained the confidence from the team as a result, we know what happens when a team lacks confidence.
I think its really simple, if we have a striker who can get 15 goals a season, i think you see a very different team and level of performance.
The club is at fault here not the manager, thats my opinion.
Wrong.
We have some talented individual players, who can't play as a team together, due to having a clueless manager, who appears to have lost some of them.
A striker would make very little difference the way things are at the mo, as the ball hardly ever comes forward and when it does, it's a hoof.
That makes it worse then, Doc
He actually believes that Koeman is an “excellent manager”....
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That makes it worse then, Doc
He actually believes that Koeman is an “excellent manager”....
@davek thinks roberto is an excellent manager and his GOT-rep has never been greater. Swings and roundabouts and all that.
Unsworth for me, 100% want him to take over ASAP. Koeman is not for Everton.
The club have a hierarchical structure of recruitment they failed to land the key target, the priority position that needed strengthening. Obviously they were was plan in place that Rooney and Sigurdsonn support a frontman. We know the best way to score set peices in the PL is set peices. Thus we bought two players in the PL who have consistently provided double figures in goals and assists playing of a striker, the plan made sense the gaping hole is the striker. Now we are asking both to be the cutting edge. The players havent become bad players, Koeman hasnt become a bad manager. The club messed up the plan. The players and manager are now scape goats.
Its really simple the club has made its worst decsionin likely our PL history, what did people expect to happen when we didnt sign an established striker and where does the failure lie?
I think people need to reflect, the majority of the fanbase was very happy with Koeman last year. I dont think he has fundementally changed in skill set.
Yes, finally someone get it, look at the last two summer transfer window that were resourced, both times there has a been fundamental problems getting deals done, not through lack of resources but negotiation - the issue is within the club.
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The point about the hoof is bang on.
Wazza was trying to win loads of headers yesterday.
Oddly enough, our most accurate passer is the bloody goalie FFS.
I have never been a knee jerk 'sack the manager type', but I really want Koeman gone now.
We've had some poor teams over the years, but in most instances its because the players on the pitch were just not good enough for the level required. The managers were forced to buy below the grade required or coach and develop what we had. Only Mike Walker had a better team than the position merited in my opinion.
Koeman has got players, he just wont play them in their positions, or at all.
Take the no pace in the squad issue, Answer could be: Lookman, Mirallas, Lennon all blessed with pace but he chooses not to play them
No creativity : He chose to send Delefelou out on loan pretty much signalling that he didn't want him, he choses not to play Tom Davies and the energy he brings. He choses to totally banish Lookman, he chose to send Dowell out on loan. Yet we play with 2 X DM every game.
We've had some poor teams over the years, but in most instances its because the players on the pitch were just not good enough for the level required. The managers were forced to buy below the grade required or coach and develop what we had. Only Mike Walker had a better team than the position merited in my opinion.
Koeman has got players, he just wont play them in their positions, or at all.
Take the no pace in the squad issue, Answer could be: Lookman, Mirallas, Lennon all blessed with pace but he chooses not to play them
No creativity : He chose to send Delefelou out on loan pretty much signalling that he didn't want him, he choses not to play Tom Davies and the energy he brings. He choses to totally banish Lookman, he chose to send Dowell out on loan. Yet we play with 2 X DM every game.
Well, no one could accuse you of being “a bit group thinky” given your apparently contrarian stance about the merits of Koeman about the excellence his management ability in spite of all evidence to the contrary.
Some might call it pig headedness.....others might think it WUMery.
Only you know the answer
Its ok for people to have a different opinion to you mate without being contradictory or pig headed, if you are here to feel good about yourself just agree, im not really arsed about being right or wrong as neither ever really exist. Just reflection and analysis on the abjectness of where we are and the root cause, for me it lies within the club.
Yes, it easy to blame the manager and the players, but i dont believe they are the root cause.
But it is easier to just agree and say yes rather then no in a thread like this.
It was highlighted in MOTD2 by Skelator Danny Murphy, the amount of time that the ball is in or around the oppositions 18yd area is almost non existent, which he rightly pointed out was down to the way the team was set up / tactics.
No striker in the world would be scoring many goals in this current Everton team.
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He has to be able to adapt to pick u some points. What if he bought a striker and he wasn't very good in the prem, or got injured? Would he just carry on with games where there is only one shot in the first half against Brighton and Hove Albion? Even that is fine in isolation, but it's not.. That's how we set up.
Even without a strong centre forward presence, we should be able to set up to be dangerous from elsewhere.
Thats a fair point mate, i do think and believe those players available to us were brought in with different intentions as part of on overall strategy and i dont think an established centre forward was key to that plan. I think Sandro was brought into to grow into this league and mature gradually, he clearly needs that pathway though i rate him. DCL equally i think was to follow the same pathway. Rooney i dont think was brought into be a center forward rather a support player for a main striker and Niasse didnt have a plan really. You cant say Koeman isnt trying to find a solution which each of them all are getting chances, but i do believe they had different development plans then what has turned out to be the case and i believe the intention wasn't to rely on any of them as our first choice striker.
It always comes back to the clubs inability to recruit a striker, its the root cause. If we had i would be the first on here criticising Koeman.
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I disagree to be honest.
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For me the issue with the ' give him a go' brigade is that there seems to be no allowance for him failing. From where we are currently his inexperience could cost us our league place, that's a hell of a gamble on a manager who also has no real stature within the game.
Suppose we install him and by Jan there is no real improvement or we are even worse off? Realistically we would have to sack him and then go down the panic/experienced hand route like 'Big Sam'
On the whole if we do dismiss Koeman( and I think it's still far from certain we will at this point)I would hope we were professional enough to appoint an experienced manager.
Blind faith is no basis to select an Everton manager. Let's be bold ( for once)
Suppose we install him and by Jan there is no real improvement or we are even worse off? Realistically we would have to sack him and then go down the panic/experienced hand route like 'Big Sam'
On the whole if we do dismiss Koeman( and I think it's still far from certain we will at this point)I would hope we were professional enough to appoint an experienced manager.
Blind faith is no basis to select an Everton manager. Let's be bold ( for once)
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