Ronald Koeman discussion

[bluejim95]

Straight swap for Messi?

Being serious for a second, surely we'd be commanding a significant fee if they took him one year into his contract?

Can't see it happening though.

 

[ianefc]

Straight swap for Messi?

Being serious for a second, surely we'd be commanding a significant fee if they took him one year into his contract?

Can't see it happening though.

£6.8m I read earlier

 

[bluejim95]

£6.8m I read earlier

Seems low that, guess that might be one of the reasons he keeps the contracts short.

 

[USABlue]

If they offer he's gone but almost any player or manager who gets offered by bayern, barca, and real madrid would be gone. Not to mention he had such a career there. That being said no point thinking about it unless an offer does come in

 

[ianefc]

Seems low that, guess that might be one of the reasons he keeps the contracts short.

I think 3 is standard practice at most clubs. Guardiola is on 3 at City. It's stupid to give overly long contracts. The three most ridiculous that spring to mind are Moyes getting 6 at UTD, Pardew getting 8? At Newcastle and worst of all Martinez getting 5 at Everton.

 

[bluejim95]

I think 3 is standard practice at most clubs. Guardiola is on 3 at City. It's stupid to give overly long contracts. The three most ridiculous that spring to mind are Moyes getting 6 at UTD, Pardew getting 8? At Newcastle and worst of all Martinez getting 5 at Everton.

Never really noticed that tbh. Pardew getting 8 of anything is amazing.

 

[roydo]

I think 3 is standard practice at most clubs. Guardiola is on 3 at City. It's stupid to give overly long contracts. The three most ridiculous that spring to mind are Moyes getting 6 at UTD, Pardew getting 8? At Newcastle and worst of all Martinez getting 5 at Everton.

Klopp is on a 6 year deal.

 

[roydo]

Never really noticed that tbh. Pardew getting 8 of anything is amazing.

Allegedly, that contract was sort of involved in Ashley "helping" with some gambling debts. Apparently, someone said once, I think. Allegedly.

 

[AaronTheBlue]

Allegedly, that contract was sort of involved in Ashley "helping" with some gambling debts. Apparently, someone said once, I think. Allegedly.

Allegedly doesnt save you anymore

 

[Efcjake]

LIttle fact for you Jakey my mate:

I was reading a book about Guardiola and his time at Bayern. He says that Tiki Taka translates as "passing with no purpose" and Pep HATES it. He wants his passing to always be with intention.

Completely off topic so apologies.

Thought the whole point of it was to keep the ball moving with quick short passing to pull the opposition out of their organizational shape to create space which can then be exploited?

 

[roydo]

Allegedly doesnt save you anymore

*gulp*

Was talking about Ashley Cole. Honest guv.

 

[Goat]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...aka-its-rubbish-and-completely-pointless.html

In a new book profiling the work of Pep Guardiola, journalist Marti Perarnau reveals the Spaniard's true feelings about the 'tiki-taka' term associated with the football played by his brilliant Barcelona team.

Pep Guardiola tucks into a starter of pureed potatoes, with obvious pleasure. He looks like he hasn't eaten anything since last night and, when I ask, he nods. He can't eat a thing on matchdays.

We are having dinner after Bayern Munich have beaten Nürnberg in a bad-tempered Munich derby.

Bayern were dreadful in the first half. It's as if the players want to please Pep by making sure they pass the ball, one of the group remarks, which immediately sets the coach off.


"I loathe all that passing for the sake of it, all that tiki-taka. It's so much rubbish and has no purpose. You have to pass the ball with a clear intention, with the aim of making it into the opposition's goal. It's not about passing for the sake of it."

The following day, he expands on this message in a meeting with his players.

"Be yourselves. You need to dig into your own DNA. I hate tiki-taka. Tiki-taka means passing the ball for the sake of it, with no clear intention. And it's pointless.

"Don't believe what people say. Barça didn't do tiki-taka! It's completely made up! Don't believe a word of it! In all team sports, the secret is to overload one side of the pitch so that the opponent must tilt its own defence to cope. You overload on one side and draw them in so that they leave the other side weak.

"And when we've done all that, we attack and score from the other side. That's why you have to pass the ball, but only if you're doing it with a clear intention. It's only to overload the opponent, to draw them in and then to hit them with the sucker punch. That's what our game needs to be. Nothing to do with tiki-taka."

 

[JLW]

Allegedly, that contract was sort of involved in Ashley "helping" with some gambling debts. Apparently, someone said once, I think. Allegedly.

This is true

 

[davek]

All the time in the world for this in all honesty, as I've said before.

However currently, I'd like to see Koeman stick it out a while longer. I feel we're on a winner with him.

Even if Koeman just sees his contract out, maybe then Unsy could have a crack.

Unsworth: ex-player, winner with the club, done all the coaching roles, brings through first teamers, has managed the first team briefly, completely gets the club, thoroughgoing professional who says all the right things and comes across as a real good egg.

I dont care if Moshiri wants and can afford another one of his 'superstar' managers. This lad has paid his dues and - I would venture to say - is good enough to take us forward.

 

[Groucho]

Unsworth: ex-player, winner with the club, done all the coaching roles, brings through first teamers, has managed the first team briefly, completely gets the club, thoroughgoing professional who says all the right things and comes across as a real good egg.

I dont care if Moshiri wants and can afford another one of his 'superstar' managers. This lad has paid his dues and - I would venture to say - is good enough to take us forward.

I agree - but I'd like to see Koeman take us a bit further first.