Robbed by the referee

[njligernj]

After the Cardiff game as well, I'm just furious. Martinez needs to lodge a complaint or something because it's hard enough winning games as it is in this league.

Maybe I'm biased but I feel like we have been one of the best sides for not having a go at the refs for years now and it has gotten us one of the worst records in terms of decisions going against us. Whenever I used to look at that website which corrects ref decisions we would often be way higher up the table.

Whining and crying and embellishing and diving and asking for cards ... it all works! Being respectful has gotten us nowhere.

... and yes for the record this decision probably didn't change anything in this game in terms of who won but I'm talking about this issue on the whole not this one incident.

 

[bluejock]

KONSPIRACEEEEEE

 

[Everton 1878 NSNO]

yes we werent at our best but it is not like this is the first match when a referee has been awful and bias towards us, it seems to happen a lot which if it doesn't get sorted out well they can feel as if they can constantly [Poor language removed] us over especially in bigger or more important matches, there needs to be some comeback on the referees or better use of technology to reduce the constant human error from them. Referees get 95% calls right or some crap they will come back with apart from the 5% that really matters and which change games. Definitely ruins the game and brings the standard of the whole league down when you know the top teams need assistance from the refs as well to guarantee a win, people will stop watching when its constantly fixed in favour of the sky favouite clubs, where is the enjoyment in them always getting it their way, thats not what sport is about it should be about two teams competing/battling against each other to win and the best wins, the ref should have minimal impact and capabilities, he is there to ref, not to judge and as such influence a game in any direction. He shouldn't be able to make any call on any play. It should be refereed by a group of people watching the cameras and then a decision is made and relayed to ref on the pitch and he is there to make sure the call is carried out or something like that imo.

 

[DanEFC92]

You know you can play poorly and still get a good result? I mean it's an obvious thing to point out but I guess some need reminding.

Ref was so poor and if we had a competent ref in his place we could have got something out of the game.

 

[icburns]

Like a moss

 

[toffeemax]

How on earth can anyone say we can't blame a ref for a result is beyond me. And that it's 'kopite' behaviour. Today's game was going to be tough even if the ref got everything spot on... However he was piss poor. He's not got the balls to officiate at this level does Moss, it's same ref that bottled it at Old Trafford in the palace game, he just went with the crowd and figured that it'd be okay as palace aren't united and there will be less of a media backlash.He did the same today, If he gives lukaku's pen he has balls but faces a potential backlash from 40,000, if he gives the city one alright there'll be a segment pissed off but then again he's probably thinking they're everton and they'll get on with it, as we percieve it as kopite behaviour if we do complain and do pressurise a referee... Being the nice guy never wins in sport.

You could also tell with his running of the game he's just not a football man, knows the rules, but not how to play it. Numerous occasions he just waived advantage when there was none. being fouled in the oppos half then having to play it back to your centre backs on the half way line is not an advantage. The David Silva scenario where he just brought down Lukaku i think it was on the counter, then he went back to have a word with him was just beyond me... I assumed he hadn't been booked because he forgot who committed the foul, but no, he didn't deem it worthy of a yellow, one of the most cynical fouls I've seen all season, then lo and behold, silva goes and gets booked later on.

He is just such a poor poor referee who bottled it.
Apologies this is very disjointed, but I'm tired.

 

[toffeejack]

Maybe I'm biased but I feel like we have been one of the best sides for not having a go at the refs for years now and it has gotten us one of the worst records in terms of decisions going against us. Whenever I used to look at that website which corrects ref decisions we would often be way higher up the table.

Whining and crying and embellishing and diving and asking for cards ... it all works! Being respectful has gotten us nowhere.

... and yes for the record this decision probably didn't change anything in this game in terms of who won but I'm talking about this issue on the whole not this one incident.

hard not to agree with this. it is refreshing to see everton being the nice guys rather than vultures like pepe reina and rio ferdinand hurling abuse at someone just trying to do their job, but where the **** does it get us? All i care about at the end of the day is 3 points, and if that means a couple of our guys giving the ref grief when he's doing a ****e attempt at his job, and consequently they do actually become afraid of giving soft decisions against us then so be it.

it's clear to see that most of the refs are shallow human beings and are in the wrong line of work, because they do constantly bow to the bigger crowds and the clubs higher up the table, seeing as they get scruitanised against because of every little decision that goes against them. So why are we different to our rivals? Leave out the RAWK jibes with this, but i generally do think they see us as an easy target, simply because we don't shout loud enough. Moyes was a grumpy, angry bloke, but he didn't do enough for me and i highly doubt nice guy martinez is the type of figure to strike fear into them to favour us. The amount of times i've been left depressed for many a week just because of how we've been cheated out/robbed of derby defeats purely by officials and not actually liverpool being better than us is just too much.

 

[harry]

I thought the ref was crap but I also thought city were very good, it was nearly impossible to mark them as their movement off the ball was excellent. We came up against a team of world class players put together by hundreds of million pounds who at times were cutting through us like a hot knife through butter. We were unlucky we caught them on a good day.

 

[Blue Truth]

Just seen Milner's tackle, how the hell did he get away with that.

 

[ToffeeMark]

Bad tackle. Not highlighted in the analysis on MOTD because he's in the England squad I guess.

 

[degsy]

Agree with this. It is possible to talk about the ref as a an individual aspect of the game without conflating it with the result.

I think we could have had more than one pen - Lukaku getting pushed over, Naismith brought down in the box before that and they never even replayed the Barkley incident on the RHS (for us) of the box which could well ahve been a pen.

I though Silva could have been booked more than once and Milner could have walked instead of getting booked.

Shocking display from the ref.

One source has Milner and the Reff as being pupil and PE teacher at the same school...thus the sheepish reluctance and the yellow not red

We didn't help ourselves, but a pen given and not given CAN change the flow of the game
With the work in progress signs up it's too early to whinge too much as yet

 

[Bluerover]

Ref was brutal. Lukaku should have been a penalty and Milner should have walked.

However, we were poor overall in the 2nd half and I hope RM sorts this out - same against Newcastle in the 2nd half.

We have to play well for 90 minutes not just 45.

Felt sorry for Shay - after his brilliant display on Monday yesterday was his worst for a long time. BUT, what I love about him is he kept going, and was still looking for the ball and trying to take on City late in the game.

 

[Chang Elephant]

The original post was a touch basic, but still some decent contributions. White text Thread Police ratings as follows:

EFCNIK - excellent response time, good dismissive response

IJJYSMITH - 15 minute response time unexepectedly slow. Good use of previous critical comment

BFLEFC - decisive first use of "Kopite", but derivative in style

TOMMYEYE - use of "RAWK" disappointing, incorrectly assumes care about what the RS say

BLUEJOCK - response time and entry too late for marking

 

[arminisgod]

David silva should have walked also

 

[Zatara]

Ref was brutal. Lukaku should have been a penalty and Milner should have walked.

However, we were poor overall in the 2nd half and I hope RM sorts this out - same against Newcastle in the 2nd half.

We have to play well for 90 minutes not just 45.

Felt sorry for Shay - after his brilliant display on Monday yesterday was his worst for a long time. BUT, what I love about him is he kept going, and was still looking for the ball and trying to take on City late in the game.

Shay?