Relegation 2022/23

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Gareth Gibson said:
Surely only a small number of fans have given up already.

Does no one remember Wimbledon?

And frankly the club won’t survive the drop. Not in the long-term anyway.

Which kid in Liverpool wants to support a lower league side?

We’d have crowds of 6,000 within a decade. Just look at Sheffield Wednesday.
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At this point, one would have to be very young (and thus foolish) or a complete and utter idiot to fight the good fight once again for this club in its latest "battle against relegation". Talk about taking the fans for granted.

We've been here in 1994, 1998, and again now and nothing has been learned. I love Everton - but sometimes you need to put down a pet to be kind to it and take it out of its misery. At the very least, you need to protect yourself from the chaotic and painful dysfunction around you. If the hierarchy think they can weaponise the fans to save their own skins again, it'll be rinse and repeat.

I hope we win every game we play and I dearly hope we stay up this season, but I won't be getting involved in any great way in the "battle" ahead...because, at best, we'll all be back to do it all over again next season. Nothing is learned by the venal mendacious people who run this club in their arrogant, self-aggrandising contempt for the fanbase.

Loyalty is not unconditional. It has to be earned. If we go down, so be it. It's been a long time coming.
 

Bottom 3. He has to go. Let Baines or someone have a free hit game against Man United. Get a new manager in over the weekend and give them a week working with the players. (They must have been speaking to managers and have a shortlist lined up by now, surely? surely they have learnt from the last few times)
 
Drico said:
We've been here in 1994, 1998, and again now and nothing has been learned. I love Everton - but sometimes you need to put down a pet to be kind to it and take it out of its misery. At the very least, you need to protect yourself from the chaotic and painful dysfunction around you. If the hierarchy think they can weaponise the fans to save their own skins again, it'll be rinse and repeat.
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I think you're being too kind to the 90s there mate- add 93, 95, 97 and 99 for large chunks of the season when we were in the relegation mix.
 

Stevie Nicks Bootleg said:
I think you're being too kind to the 90s there mate- add 93, 95, 97 and 99 for large chunks of the season when we were in the relegation mix.
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Well, this is it.

Nothing was learned. And we all came back for more - again and again - until we were right back in a last-day survival horror in 1998.

People have free will. Good luck to those who want to light a few blue flares and set off a few cobalt smoke bombs, but it's all theatre at this point. The changes that needed to be made based on the lessons that needed to be learned have not happened. The "fright" of last season has had no lasting consequences. So, increase the dose until it does.
 
Baggzio said:
I can only think that they’re giving him United which we’re certain to lose so that let’s say Dyche can come in on literally the easiest game we could possibly have at home to them.

If that match can’t kickstart a new manager bounce and try to instil some confidence then we truly may as well pack it in.
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That would make sense, therefore it almost certainly won’t happen.
 
maccavennie said:
Of course mate I get that but honestly we've barely spent a bean in 2 seasons and apparently we are still up crap creek. Maybe we get relegated and we get a big parachute payment to help offset it.

Genuinely, do we have the money to sack another management team? I don't know.

Genuinely, do we then have the money to replace it with a better management team than we have now? I don't know.

Can you imagine sacking Lampard and his motley crew, hiring someone else, avoiding relegation by 3/4 points then getting a 6 point deduction as we breached our spending!

I'm not saying it could happen, I'm just saying we've spent millions on utter clowns and yet we are still asking the ring master to chuck us one more clown again.

I'm gutted, Genuinely gutted. As a fan, as a dad who has a 14 year old son supporter, fkin embarrassed doesn't even cover how I feel. But I had a chat with him last night, when the inevitable happens and we go down, let's make peace with it now and focus on if that happens how the parasites sucking the life out of this club will have no more blood to feed on and will leave once and for all.
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I know you are spot on with this mate and its a complete mess. It is probably a bit to simplistic to think we can get shot of another manager and get another in place, but to have us keep plummeting to our doom just because we can't afford to replace the manager is frightening. To think Moshiri is an accountant, it beggars belief.

I don't have kids but I feel for everyone here that does. I grew up in Aberdeen and had no affiliation to Everton but developed an interest in them because I was aware of them being a big club in the 80s when I was in primary school, the cup win in 95 and seeing them come up in 96 for a testimonial. Now, though, why would a kid choose us. Time, poor governance, limited ambition and greed has rendered us an utter irrelevance. I can't think of a single club in the league worse run than us and even the positives the club do I can't help but look at cynically. Like the Ukraine tributes last season which was a nice touch and all but also a convenient means to make people look the other way when there was questions being asked in the press about the board / fan discontent.

Most kids now seem to also follow players in addition to teams (or maybe instead of) and in the last few years we've had players that kids could be excited about Lukaku, Richarlison, James etc but frittered them away. Who is a kid desperate to see play now? Footballs a complex business now but I remember when I was a kid going to Pittodrie with my Grandad. We signed Charlie Nicolas from Arsenal and he explained to me that the club had signed him to put bums on seats and it worked. As it happened we had a shrewd chairman at the time. We could well do with a bit of that instead of Billy Liar.

Its utterly tragic but relegation is odds on at the moment. Maybe the only way to get rid of the parasites but what a price to pay to get them out.
 

Relegation wouldn’t just see us doing a derby, it would be the end of this club.

We are already almost in Bury territory.

We must stay up at any cost. If that means us getting behind our players as we did towards the end of last season then so be it.
 
It doesn't seem long ago that people were saying it was all fine margins and we could just as easily find ourselves 10th. It's certainly not the case now, a gap has well and truly opened up, it's difficult to see there being one of those teams you sometimes get who just plummets into the reckoning this season, because they're already 90% of the way to safety now.
 
gorgeousgeorgeEFC said:
Relegation wouldn’t just see us doing a derby, it would be the end of this club.

We are already almost in Bury territory.

We must stay up at any cost. If that means us getting behind our players as we did towards the end of last season then so be it.
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We can get behind the players but I'm not sure it will have the same impact this year as it did last - the squad look much weaker and the opponents (bar perhaps Saints) look stronger. We simply don't have enough firepower up front.
 

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