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When you look at the available data, things don't look so bad compared to the British Rail days.


Anyone who has actually used a railway like Southern can attest that putting a few graphs together cannot gaslight you into thinking it was a good/improved service. It was woeful.

Their shareholders still managed to get their dividend though, even though the customers were continually let down. So that probably goes down as a success, as as long as their happy, it's worked. They'll always have mugs like me ready cough up unfortunately.
 
When you look at the available data, things don't look so bad compared to the British Rail days.

I have worked for both BR and private,
BR had been left to rot, old stock ect.
But they were miles more customers centic , despite the jokes,
Everything was under one banner, easy to see who was supposed to be doing what.
Now network rail , own the tracks ,building ect, the likes of northernrail lease the stock , trains ect, only thing they own is the staff.
Even there it's like chalk and cheese these days ,happy chappy isnt northernrail fk great in the
Clerical offices, while out there in the real world most would happily get out in a heartbeat.
Try even talking between stations , signal boxes ect as they are all completely different companies .
Tell you it's a nightmare.
The private companies fiddle the figures something rotten, for instance the can part run 3 services ,( they only go a fraction of the journey, ) then run the forth one the full distance before it counts as a cancellation?
There is all sorts going on, on northernrail you hear no train crew available, so trains are cancelled,
go on the staff social media and they are there guards ,driver ect, for some reason they don't run it
My nephew got a taxi to Manchester to bring a train back to Liverpool the other week, got there to hear the announcement that the train was cancelled due to lack of train crew, then sat up there for two hours
The managers are given a budget , they only get a portion of there pay of they go below it, so everything is run around that.
Honestly we haven't had a uniform for two years and if any gets wear and tear you have to sent a picture in to get new kit, shoes ect.
Lots of the stations don't have working cameras, the alarms don't go anywhere just ring a bell like in your house, because it cost a few hundred quid to have them monitors, so that went.
Under BR we were well better trained, safety wise on a different planet, now its near disappeared, half the new staff havnt a clue what to do in an emergency these days, if the older staff are not around
I dread to think what would happen.
Honestly you would believe some if the stuff you come across.
To be honest it's finished ,
I wouldn’t tell anyone to get a job on the rail these days ,
You can see it happening before your eyes every day.
It will be become, low paid , flexible working ect and run more and more by people with little understanding of how things work,but can trot out propaganda, and a graph and tell you how it works in tesco or some other retailers booklet.
 
I have worked for both BR and private,
BR had been left to rot, old stock ect.
But they were miles more customers centic , despite the jokes,
Everything was under one banner, easy to see who was supposed to be doing what.
Now network rail , own the tracks ,building ect, the likes of northernrail lease the stock , trains ect, only thing they own is the staff.
Even there it's like chalk and cheese these days ,happy chappy isnt northernrail fk great in the
Clerical offices, while out there in the real world most would happily get out in a heartbeat.
Try even talking between stations , signal boxes ect as they are all completely different companies .
Tell you it's a nightmare.
The private companies fiddle the figures something rotten, for instance the can part run 3 services ,( they only go a fraction of the journey, ) then run the forth one the full distance before it counts as a cancellation?
There is all sorts going on, on northernrail you hear no train crew available, so trains are cancelled,
go on the staff social media and they are there guards ,driver ect, for some reason they don't run it
My nephew got a taxi to Manchester to bring a train back to Liverpool the other week, got there to hear the announcement that the train was cancelled due to lack of train crew, then sat up there for two hours
The managers are given a budget , they only get a portion of there pay of they go below it, so everything is run around that.
Honestly we haven't had a uniform for two years and if any gets wear and tear you have to sent a picture in to get new kit, shoes ect.
Lots of the stations don't have working cameras, the alarms don't go anywhere just ring a bell like in your house, because it cost a few hundred quid to have them monitors, so that went.
Under BR we were well better trained, safety wise on a different planet, now its near disappeared, half the new staff havnt a clue what to do in an emergency these days, if the older staff are not around
I dread to think what would happen.
Honestly you would believe some if the stuff you come across.
To be honest it's finished ,
I wouldn’t tell anyone to get a job on the rail these days ,
You can see it happening before your eyes every day.
It will be become, low paid , flexible working ect and run more and more by people with little understanding of how things work,but can trot out propaganda, and a graph and tell you how it works in tesco or some other retailers booklet.
So when they do away with cars there's not even a viable alternative
 
When you look at the available data, things don't look so bad compared to the British Rail days.

Bruce, I think we've discussed this in the past Bruce, but the entire pre and pre-privatisation and debate all depends on the metrics used to measure success.

As I've said previously, the view that BR was some form of effective service is probably best described as based on nostalgia rather than fact.

If we're talking about punctuality and availability of key services, the modern network is much more efficient; they had rail stock, but it was ageing and inefficient.

There were more trains (e.g. routes and services), but evidence suggests these were more of a scattergun approach rather than focusing on key services.

Still, it's not to say that the current service is efficient either because on the metric of profits vs. number of services we're in a much worse position now.

There's no real incentive for the operators to take a risk because if they lose their control, they aren't going to lose capital from it - only future profits.

It's a no-risk scenario. @edge will know much more than I do, however companies like Northern will continue to flourish even with the s-show they offer.
 
Rail traffic is 75% what it was pre-Covid. That's a fall of around 100 million journeys in a 3 month period. That has resulted in a decline in passenger revenue of around £1 billion for that period. Deserving of a payrise that.

Not sure we can lay that at the feet of drivers and train managers. That is much more top management responsibility.
 
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