Current Affairs Rail strikes

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I don't have any doubt at all that public services are struggling and that they, along with other parts of the economy, are having great difficulty attracting staff. Here is the thing though. Public sector pay has historically been above that of the private sector. Maybe some would call further demands "entitled", but to take the NHS as an example, the pay demand from the nurses union would cost in the region of £9bn, or 5% of the entire NHS budget. Since the creation of the NHS, the average increase in its budget is about 3.5%, so not only would paying the nurses what the union is demanding means that the service wouldn't even be able to carry on as it is, but it would have to cut back in some way in order to afford it. Is that what you mean by improving public services?

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Bruce you must know that the union don’t for a second think they’ll actually get what they are asking for, so using that as a basis for measuring the value or appropriateness of strikes is a bit silly.

I would be pretty confident that if a response went back to the unions offering staff in England what staff in Scotland are being offered, that it would be taken.

Your opening position in negotiations is never what you would actually accept.

Having said that, the NHS spends somewhere around £3bn per year on agency and a further £6bn on bank hours. A decent portion of that could probably be saved by offering regular staff a decent pay rise.
 
“There were 512,000 employees in the Civil Service for June 2022, unchanged compared with March 2022 and 14,000 (2.8%) more than for June 2021; employment in the Civil Service remains above its June 2016 level of 416,000.”

Why the increase of 96,000 in just 6 years ?…anyone…..
 
How?...

If you can't answer then you've just typed out nonsense.
So it’s individual unions then and not a fight to give every working person a decent wage? Fair enough. Go on strike to have the minimum wage increased by 50% across the board, or would that not be of any interest to the public sector? Yes, if it happened it would cause inflation for all no doubt.
 
So it’s individual unions then and not a fight to give every working person a decent wage? Fair enough. Go on strike to have the minimum wage increased by 50% across the board, or would that not be of any interest to the public sector? Yes, if it happened it would cause inflation for all no doubt.

You want people to take time off work and lose pay in order to get other people, who will be continuing to work and be paid as they're not unionised, better pay and conditions.


Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha ?
 
You want people to take time off work and lose pay in order to get other people, who will be continuing to work and be paid as they're not unionised, better pay and conditions.


Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha ?
Btw, where did I say I would expect the low paid not to join you? Is for instance USDAW a thing these days?
 
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“There were 512,000 employees in the Civil Service for June 2022, unchanged compared with March 2022 and 14,000 (2.8%) more than for June 2021; employment in the Civil Service remains above its June 2016 level of 416,000.”

Why the increase of 96,000 in just 6 years ?…anyone…..

Hmm, what huge, societal changes have taken place in the last six years that require more civil servants.

Let me think ?
 
“There were 512,000 employees in the Civil Service for June 2022, unchanged compared with March 2022 and 14,000 (2.8%) more than for June 2021; employment in the Civil Service remains above its June 2016 level of 416,000.”

Why the increase of 96,000 in just 6 years ?…anyone…..
I know they have got a number of policy specialists in to do help get the backlog and workload down after brexit and the shutdown, not actually sure what that is but they are part of the number.
Havnt a clue about the others weren't the government looking to do away with roughly that number a few years back.?
May be an increase in part time roles or something.
 
Hmm, what huge, societal changes have taken place in the last six years that require more civil servants.

Let me think ?

Well there’s all the HR personnel to recruit them, management layers to direct and control them and accountants and payroll to pay them. Other than that I can’t see why we needed an additional 25% additional staff. And of course do we still need them. My guess would be they will never leave and it will again continue to grow ……
 
Actually, and I appreciate that while I am retired but still an owner of two businesses, I haven’t even noticed that anyone is on strike……
 
Well there’s all the HR personnel to recruit them, management layers to direct and control them and accountants and payroll to pay them. Other than that I can’t see why we needed an additional 25% additional staff. And of course do we still need them. My guess would be they will never leave and it will again continue to grow ……

The state is simply having to do a lot more.

I suspect numbers will slowly reduce in the coming years however, provided nothing else huge happens.
 
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