Current Affairs Race wars, neo-nazis and other unpleasantness

[Jebus_lives]

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Sounds painful

Rough justice

 

[magicjuan]

The law (The Public Order Act 1986) doesn't work the same when their is violent disorder and rioting as opposed to when their isn't.

Things said, that may seem fine when there is what is known as "the King's peace" or "the peace" which is a state of normality in society, are not and are treated as incitement when there is "breaching the peace" (per common law definition). Basically people are frequently charged and prosecuted by the criminal justice system for incitement to riot. All in the effort to return to "the peace" and stop the violent disorder and rioting

However common law isn't used per se, and doesn't apply because it comes under The Public Order Act 1986 statute

People saying about free speech etc. Yes. All well and good. But there is always limits on that and what may not be offences normally in terms of what people say, suddenly do become offences when people are out rioting

So it goes back to what @GrandOldTeam was saying the other day. The law treats things differently when people are out there causing disorder and rioting. He called it double standards but you have to think of it like I explained above.

The police and courts cease tolerating things that ordinarily (when people are not out rioting) they may otherwise would

The language people use gets further constrained when people go out rioting, that ordinarily people may not take too much notice of

There. FFS
Stopped reading after that...

 

[Damo_1878]

There. FFS
Stopped reading after that...

Can't help it if you have a poor attention span!

 

[Clint Planet]

There can be no excuses. The UK riots were violent racism fomented by populism | David Olusoga

Culture wars have poisoned political debate, normalised Islamophobia and opened wounds that a generation blighted by nativism hoped had closed

www.theguardian.com

Olusoga nails it.

 

[summerisle]

 

[Armaghtoffee]

15k attended an anti racist march in Belfast today. I wasn’t there but huge respect and thanks to all who stood up to the fascist scum.

 

[twoblue]

I found some of the facebook comments and stuff posted deplorable, but jail time for it? I'm not sure, fines at most surely. What do we think?

Think examples need to be made. People now might think twice about what they post. They will all be quietly released in few weeks.
End of the day, web needs to change, it’s dark corners are pretty evil places

 

[magicjuan]

Can't help it if you have a poor attention span!

But you can help with your crap grammar

 

[Damo_1878]

But you can help with your crap grammar

It was typed on my phone

 

[magicjuan]

It was typed on my phone

Crap grammar, crap excuses. Engerlish for das Ingerlisch innit

 

[longers]

Surprised to see him do something on the UK. Quite a lot of interviews with Liverpudlians.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Surprised to see him do something on the UK. Quite a lot of interviews with Liverpudlians.

I think the key takeaway from that video is that anyone who goes on a march is utterly mental.

 

[Shevin Keedy]

One day the nazi fascists will join hands with the blue haired bull-dykes and just agree to disagree, and I think there's a lesson there for all of us.

 

[Sean Ashley]

‘My shop was looted by rioters, then saved by strangers’ - BBC News

How a Southport man was deeply affected by violent unrest that targeted his shop - but also by the acts of compassion that followed.

www.bbc.co.uk

A perspective from a shopkeeper who unfortunately had his shop looted the first day of the riots here in Southport.

For context his shop is close to the mosque that was set on fire.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Oh man, someone point him in the direction of the idiotic rent-a-gob lawyer from Bham who kicked off about the Manchester airport fight.

Just for the trollz.