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People crying crocodile tears for Putin's victims. Most of them are gangsters like he is. Oligarchs with private armies and tenatcles into capitalist elites around the globe.

No one should have a dog in that fight.

As said, the only thing out of Russia of any interest for me and millions of others right now is how their vaccine is performing.

No crocodile tears . If this government poisoned Ian Huntley I wouldn’t be particularly happy you know why ? Because it’s not right , doesn’t feel hard to understand. I say that as someone who used to question things they’d done in their past .

you’re literally saying “at least the trains ran on time “ . You’re genuinely the oddest socialist I’ve ever encountered.
 
The leaders of our world - whether democratically elected or not - now think they can get away with anything and who can blame them?

Believe me, Joe Biden is the last remaining hope for decent people, and that's saying something.
 
The leaders of our world - whether democratically elected or not - now think they can get away with anything and who can blame them?

Believe me, Joe Biden is the last remaining hope for decent people, and that's saying something.

For years i’d look at the Holocaust or the horrors of civil war in Yugoslavia and wonder how on earth could people allow themselves to be part of such things and you’d wonder how their humanity could be Eroded . I don’t mean those in conflict , I can get than I can see how they are dehumanised and desensitised but those at home who are necessary to support it . Then you see farage , SYL , Katie Hopkins , trump , the hatred towards immigrants , homophobia, anti-Semitic behaviour , doesn’t matter If we lock them up Or take away their rights or kill em because that person is a criminal or an immigrant . Those people buying pasties are vermin , scum And murderers . I can honestly see how easy it is for some in society to slip into even embrace totalitarianism .

it doesn’t feel like it’s going away , people will excuse anything to support and push their agenda . Dark dark days
 
No crocodile tears . If this government poisoned Ian Huntley I wouldn’t be particularly happy you know why ? Because it’s not right , doesn’t feel hard to understand. I say that as someone who used to question things they’d done in their past .

you’re literally saying “at least the trains ran on time “ . You’re genuinely the oddest socialist I’ve ever encountered.
I have no compassion for gangsters. Putin assassinating his enemies is usually the result of that gangsterism. Socialists throughout history would have had no sympathy for the criminal class.
 
I have no compassion for gangsters. Putin assassinating his enemies is usually the result of that gangsterism. Socialists throughout history would have had no sympathy for the criminal class.

Ok so your position you’ve now established is you support state assassination If the target is a gangster ‘ . I presume that’s whether it’s Russia , Israel or the Uk ?

Weird I seem to remember you kicking off about a bizzie shooting a terrorist on a bridge , the bloke in question wearing an albeit fake suicide vest yet you seem to find that act more abhorrent than a government poisoning a political opponent.
 
Ok so your position you’ve now established is you support state assassination If the target is a gangster ‘ . I presume that’s whether it’s Russia , Israel or the Uk ?

Weird I seem to remember you kicking off about a bizzie shooting a terrorist on a bridge , the bloke in question wearing an albeit fake suicide vest yet you seem to find that act more abhorrent than a government poisoning a political opponent.
I dont support it, no. I simply dont care if gangsters are killed. How is that controversial?
 
I dont support it, no. I simply dont care if gangsters are killed. How is that controversial?

Ok so firstly caring if gangsters are killed and caring if the state murders them , there is a distinction there surely ? If Ian Huntley dies I won’t shed a tear or be even remotely concerned but if I find out Boris Johnson ordered him strangled in his cell then yeah I’d be concerned. How is that controversial? Supporting extra judicial state murder is in my opinion fairly controversial to be honest .

for clarity and contrast this is your post when a bloke wearing a suicide vest was shot
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“An utter 'kin disgrace. That feller was down and under control.

The copper is a murdering scumbag and should be gaoled for life. 'kin sub-human vermin..”

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I mean you don’t see you’re maybe sending mixed messages ?
 
Ok so firstly caring if gangsters are killed and caring if the state murders them , there is a distinction there surely ? If Ian Huntley dies I won’t shed a tear or be even remotely concerned but if I find out Boris Johnson ordered him strangled in his cell then yeah I’d be concerned. How is that controversial? Supporting extra judicial state murder is in my opinion fairly controversial to be honest .

for clarity and contrast this is your post when a bloke wearing a suicide vest was shot
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“An utter 'kin disgrace. That feller was down and under control.

The copper is a murdering scumbag and should be gaoled for life. 'kin sub-human vermin..”

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I mean you don’t see you’re maybe sending mixed messages ?
The distinction to be aware of is that Huntley and those like him are mentally unstable; gansters are, by and large, thugs who stop at nothing and are cogent and scheming it what they do.

I cant believe anyone is supporting the rights of gangsters to oxygen. Bollocks to them.
 
The distinction to be aware of is that Huntley and those like him are mentally unstable; gansters are, by and large, thugs who stop at nothing and are cogent and scheming it what they do.

I cant believe anyone is supporting the rights of gangsters to oxygen. Bollocks to them.

But even so, you support a state killing a gangster? Which wouldnt happen if said gangster supported the state.
 
The distinction to be aware of is that Huntley and those like him are mentally unstable; gansters are, by and large, thugs who stop at nothing and are cogent and scheming it what they do.

I cant believe anyone is supporting the rights of gangsters to oxygen. Bollocks to them.

ok so convicted child murderers rights supported
Suspected , unconvicted , terrorist rights supported
Those deemed by you to be ‘gangsters’ , whatever the background to that rights irrelevant.

I’m one of those weird people that believe rights should be extended to all whatever their alleged crimes , race , sexuality and the like , It makes it easier . It’s usually the far right into denying rights so it’s nice to mix that up .

just to further establish clarity can you give me examples of some other people who are on your ok to be murdered list . Is it just those you don’t seem to like personally or is there for example people you’d normally support but see their conduct gets them on the murder list or weirdly and conveniently is it just those with Opposing ideals to you or those you tacitly support ?
 
ok so convicted child murderers rights supported
Suspected , unconvicted , terrorist rights supported
Those deemed by you to be ‘gangsters’ , whatever the background to that rights irrelevant.

I’m one of those weird people that believe rights should be extended to all whatever their alleged crimes , race , sexuality and the like , It makes it easier . It’s usually the far right into denying rights so it’s nice to mix that up .

just to further establish clarity can you give me examples of some other people who are on your ok to be murdered list . Is it just those you don’t seem to like personally or is there for example people you’d normally support but see their conduct gets them on the murder list or weirdly and conveniently is it just those with Opposing ideals to you or those you tacitly support ?
Here's the feller, Navalny, who we're supposed to be othered about. His father was a Red Army officer who made a grab for factories when the Soviet empire fell. That's done with plenty of muscle, as all the oligarchs used - ex army in many cases. Navalny himself holds some terrible views: “I want a market economy in the most wicked form—the strongest survive, the rest are simply superfluous", and he's a known racist and anti-semite. He calls immigrants cockroaches and says their expulsion is like getting rid of rotten teeth.

Such people are really not worth concerning ourselves with. Neither is Putin's well-being worth bothering about. Just let them get on with destroying each other.

These inconsistencies you think you're uncovering are not inconsistencies at all. You cant be serious in suggesting that psychotic child murderers and people who are struggling for liberation should be either ALL condemned or 'understood' together with gangsters? For very different reasons, they cant: the first are hard-wired to be unhinged, and the second are motivated by a cause that goes beyond self-aggrindizement. Gangsters are lucid, free-thinking and the ultimate selfish being - a menace.
 
Here's the feller, Navalny, who we're supposed to be othered about. His father was a Red Army officer who made a grab for factories when the Soviet empire fell. That's done with plenty of muscle, as all the oligarchs used - ex army in many cases. Navalny himself holds some terrible views: “I want a market economy in the most wicked form—the strongest survive, the rest are simply superfluous", and he's a known racist and anti-semite. He calls immigrants cockroaches and says their expulsion is like getting rid of rotten teeth.

Such people are really not worth concerning ourselves with. Neither is Putin's well-being worth bothering about. Just let them get on with destroying each other.

These inconsistencies you think you're uncovering are not inconsistencies at all. You cant be serious in suggesting that psychotic child murderers and people who are struggling for liberation should be either ALL condemned or 'understood' together with gangsters? For very different reasons, they cant: the first are hard-wired to be unhinged, and the second are motivated by a cause that goes beyond self-aggrindizement. Gangsters are lucid, free-thinking and the ultimate selfish being - a menace.

But state backed killings are state backed killings. Its just the choice of target you are comfortable with.
 
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