Pray for Man City in the champions league for the next two years, NOT.

[Paris]

 

[Khalekan]

I really don't see what the debate is about. City are cheats.
They hadn't won a trophy for 30 years and weren't likely to, same as Chelsea and then all of a sudden, crash, bang wallop an injection of cash they had never earned and then a plethora of silverware appears.
That they stopped clubs we may or may not like winning titles during that period is irrelevant.
Everything they have won since they were taken over is tainted. We all know that.
Acceptance of it is a mindset based purely on whichever agenda you choose to follow and argue.

You are right about City but not about Chelsea.

They started winning trophies in the late 90s and almost won the league circa 2001, qualifying for the CL.....before Roman came on board.

Matthew Harding was investing in Chelsea and helping transform them in the 90s round about the same time we were being totally mismanaged by one Peter Johnson.

 

[degsy]

lol

now do the RS

They'll have already applied to have last years title retrospectively awarded to them...' told yis, net spend la, net spend.'

 

[WA Toffee]

I really don't see what the debate is about. City are cheats.
They hadn't won a trophy for 30 years and weren't likely to, same as Chelsea and then all of a sudden, crash, bang wallop an injection of cash they had never earned and then a plethora of silverware appears.
That they stopped clubs we may or may not like winning titles during that period is irrelevant.
Everything they have won since they were taken over is tainted. We all know that.
Acceptance of it is a mindset based purely on whichever agenda you choose to follow and argue.

Yes, they have broken the rules, but the debate is about the actual rule itself. The official line is that it is designed to ensure clubs do not endanger their existence by spending money they don't have, the reality is that it effecfively prevents up and coming clubs from competing financially with established clubs by preventing them spending the same amount of money.

In theory, Usmanov could sign Messi and Mbappe for us and give us 50 million to pay their wages. But FFP wouldn't allow that, so we are effectively banned from signing players of that calibre. Is that "fair play"?

 

[Paris]

As Brian Clough once said about Leeds.

'"As far as i'm concerned, the first thing you can do for me is to chuck all your medals and all your caps and all your pots and all your pans into the biggest dustbin you can find, because you've never won any of them fairly. You've done it all by bloody cheating."

 

[degsy]

A lot of money to flow under the bridge yet, a couple of law firms going to win the lottery on this.

Eventually City will strangely finish 5th one season while getting a 1 year CL...but not Europa League, ban, with the 2nd year suspended.
Or some such flim flam.

 

[Huyton Layne]

 

[Khalekan]

Kopite dominance of world football for the next 3 years confirmed.
Nice one

Sadly true.

 

[Mat70s]

Yes, they have broken the rules, but the debate is about the actual rule itself. The official line is that it is designed to ensure clubs do not endanger their existence by spending money they don't have, the reality is that it effecfively prevents up and coming clubs from competing financially with established clubs by preventing them spending the same amount of money.

In theory, Usmanov could sign Messi and Mbappe for us and give us 50 million to pay their wages. But FFP wouldn't allow that, so we are effectively banned from signing players of that calibre. Is that "fair play"?

I guess there’s a debate to be had regarding the rules but while they exist there’s no moral argument to defend this rule breach. City knew the regulations which is why they operated cynically to circumnavigate them.

 

[Goat]

I really don't see what the debate is about. City are cheats.
They hadn't won a trophy for 30 years and weren't likely to, same as Chelsea and then all of a sudden, crash, bang wallop an injection of cash they had never earned and then a plethora of silverware appears.
That they stopped clubs we may or may not like winning titles during that period is irrelevant.
Everything they have won since they were taken over is tainted. We all know that.
Acceptance of it is a mindset based purely on whichever agenda you choose to follow and argue.

I bet you wont be saying any trophies we win are tainted? But then im sure you will forget all about the cash injection we have had by then.

 

[tommytowne]

So are Manchester City.

They are just getting it from a different state to the one in which they are domiciled.

Totally agree but the point I'm making is that I can't recall any drastic punishment being meted out to the Spanish legendary institution.

 

[Prevenger17]

I have no idea why some people are resistant to this. Their spending has been obscene and we all knew they weren't getting that money from their own revenue

 

[Blueclouds]

Dont know too much about this but how do Barcelona and madrid get away with their spending sprees.

 

[WA Toffee]

I guess there’s a debate to be had regarding the rules but while they exist there’s no moral argument to defend this rule breach. City knew the regulations which is why they operated cynically to circumnavigate them.

Totally agree. If you break the rules, don't cry if you get caught.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

La Liga president Javier Tebas, “Uefa is finally taking decisive action, Enforcing the rules of financial fair play and punishing financial doping is essential for the future of football. For years we have been calling for severe action against Manchester City... we finally have a good example of action and hope to see more. Better late than never.”

*Applause.


Every trophy Abu Dhabi FC has bought is tainted. Guardiola, an honourable man, now has this stain on his record. So too did Conte at Juve, despite him personally having never done anything wrong either. Unfair or not, the association is there (Mourinho‘s jibe at Conte evidence of this).

La liga, who were happy for Real to drive themselves into 120m euro of debt before having their training ground purchased by the city for exactly the same amount then leased back for nothing...