Potential new Formation and Teams

[throughthewindandthedrain]

We won't start with this but by the end of the season I think we could be playing this side. Sadly don't see Distin lasting full season and the Spanish Lad will be coming off the bench along with Jelavic to destroy teams on the counter attack

Robles
Alcaraz
Jagielka Oviedo
Coleman Gibson Fellaini Baines
Barkley
Mirallas Kone

 

[Whitty]

We won't start with this but by the end of the season I think we could be playing this side. Sadly don't see Distin lasting full season and the Spanish Lad will be coming off the bench along with Jelavic to destroy teams on the counter attack

Robles
Alcaraz
Jagielka Oviedo
Coleman Gibson Fellaini Baines
Barkley
Mirallas Kone

Oviedo as a centre back? No chance

 

[throughthewindandthedrain]

wouldn't be a conventional centre half but think Martinez will look for at least two in a three covering at the back to be comfortable on the ball so don't see Duffy, Distin and Jags playing together for full season. just trying suggest something a bit different really. I think Oviedo and Barkley both going to get chances and I think in Oviedo's case it will be at the expense of Pienaar

 

[ijjysmith]

We won't start with this but by the end of the season I think we could be playing this side. Sadly don't see Distin lasting full season and the Spanish Lad will be coming off the bench along with Jelavic to destroy teams on the counter attack

Robles
Alcaraz
Jagielka Oviedo
Coleman Gibson Fellaini Baines
Barkley
Mirallas Kone

I don't understand your defence at all.

 

[ijjysmith]

Also interesting how Howard is being dropped by a lot of people.

 

[throughthewindandthedrain]

Oviedo as a centre back? No chance

Alcaraz and Jags more conventional centre halves with Ovideo allowing Baines more freedom going forward. I don't see Coleman needing the same level of cover. its the only way with current squad I see three at the back working effectively for us.

 

[Whitty]

If it wont work with Distin, Alacaraz and Jags then it won't work at all. Shoe-horning Oviedo into a centre back position would be a massive mistake. I dont understand what makes you think he could play that role?

 

[Caveo]

I see this.
http://lineupbuilder.com/?sk=r0h

 

[throughthewindandthedrain]

If it wont work with Distin, Alacaraz and Jags then it won't work at all. Shoe-horning Oviedo into a centre back position would be a massive mistake. I dont understand what makes you think he could play that role?

to be honest I just see it as Oviedo replacing Pienaar and I think that at the moment that means Baines further forward than Oviedo. if it was conventional back four then he is playing in his more natural position, but allows him to play more centrally if Coleman is pushing forward. Not ideal but not sure its that weird and Alcaraz, Distin, Jags just sounds like three centre halves which is not how I can think he will want to play them, I think three at the back would mean two who are much more distinctly left and right cover. to be honest I am not convinced by it, just thought I would post something different from what is already up here.

 

[Michael Tsui]

Also interesting how Howard is being dropped by a lot of people.

Simply put Joel is better on the ball, and honestly as "traditional" goalkeeping skills goes both are of Prem quality. Though I think some will argue that the man opposite the park once bring in a keeper for his ball-playing ability and we should avoid this kind of thinking like the plague.

 

[Michael Tsui]

to be honest I just see it as Oviedo replacing Pienaar and I think that at the moment that means Baines further forward than Oviedo. if it was conventional back four then he is playing in his more natural position, but allows him to play more centrally if Coleman is pushing forward. Not ideal but not sure its that weird and Alcaraz, Distin, Jags just sounds like three centre halves which is not how I can think he will want to play them, I think three at the back would mean two who are much more distinctly left and right cover. to be honest I am not convinced by it, just thought I would post something different from what is already up here.

I would rather put Gibson there than Oviedo.

There is a reason why fluid transition of 3 and 4 in the same game usually involves a Centre-back doubling as a full back but not vice versa; another case is defensive midfielders doubling as centre-back/sweepers (both ways may go in this case, though).

 

[Pblueman]

i know it isnt the most popular statement on here but i still rate Howard as an excellent keeper, Joel will have to be very good to take his shirt for me

 

[throughthewindandthedrain]

I would rather put Gibson there than Oviedo.

There is a reason why fluid transition of 3 and 4 in the same game usually involves a Centre-back doubling as a full back but not vice versa; another case is defensive midfielders doubling as centre-back/sweepers (both ways may go in this case, though).

I agree a more mobile centre half who is used to directly covering at left back is ideal, not sure we have one though and as much as I love Distin I think to give him chance to play at some level for next few seasons we won't play him as much as we have or play him in a role that means he is probably doing more work. Gibson looks like he could play even deeper but to be honest if he gets it right the whole system will be very fluid

 

[banno]

Howard still got 2 seasons as 1st choice goalie. I think he is good and as any goalie in the league he will be responsible for a few clangers/goals conceded a season. Think people are too harsh on him.

 

[banno]

I think we can expect a few drubbings this season but also expect to see us hand out a few drubbings. Don't think Martinez will adopt just one formation but several, and that will be during the course of games also. The players will have to adapt quickly and be clever enough to change during a game that maybe isn't going well. As the season goes on and the players get use to the different systems we will get stronger. Bit like Liverpool last season. Expect one step back before taking two steps forward.