Potential ban on betting companies on shirts

[Walken]

I used to earmark 150 notes on payday for roulette.

3 superspins of 50 quid a time front loaded on 0-9.

If it came in I would stop and my payday weekend of debauchery was paid for. If it didn't I'd be a bit gutted and would walk away and do an overtime shift if I got short towards the end of the month.

I was quite annoyed when they put the max bet down to make it not worthwhile but I don't care anymore, more money to spend on my other vices.

Sometimes I do a £5 first and a £5 last scorer for the Mighty Blues. Apart from that I hardly bother. Maybe the occasional nag if I'm walking past a bookies and can't be bothered flushing a fiver down the toilet.

Ban gambling and it will become unregulated, people aren't just going to stop. It will fall into the arms of organised crime.

Banning anything that can be a currency is a poor tactic, but they can stop what is an absolutely relentless advertising campaign, same as they did with ciggies

 

[Paris]

Granted it's not as lucrative as it once was but this continued clamping down on the betting industry is going to have a hugely detrimental impact on us matched bettors. I started matched betting in August after I saw a post on GOT and it has given me extra money that has come in very handy indeed.

 

[Baines' left foot]

Because there are too many snowflakes in this country who cant be trusted to act responsibly without government intervention.

I would say education and support is surely needed for people who can be turned to ruin by something as easy as Sports Pesa being named on a clubs shirt for example.

I like a pint and a bet but just because ale or bookies names are plastered around doesn't turn me into an addict.

Labelling addicts snowflakes is a bit bad taste.

 

[Tipp blue]

My lad has just gone 4 and I've yet to buy him a jersey, not until it's the same as what he'll see on the players will I get one for him. So getting rid of betting sponsorship will hopefully be the first step to his first kit.

 

[Tipp blue]

Because there are too many snowflakes in this country who cant be trusted to act responsibly without government intervention.

I would say education and support is surely needed for people who can be turned to ruin by something as easy as Sports Pesa being named on a clubs shirt for example.

I like a pint and a bet but just because ale or bookies names are plastered around doesn't turn me into an addict.

Did you know before your first drink or first bet that you wouldn't become addicted to either? Likely never crossed your mind, but it could have happened, nobody sets out to become an alcoholic or to get addicted to gambling.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Did you know before your first drink or first bet that you wouldn't become addicted to either? Likely never crossed your mind, but it could have happened, nobody sets out to become an alcoholic or to get addicted to gambling.

There is evidence to suggest some people are predisposed to what we call gambling. Modern UK gambling starts at a very early age enticing people in, Football stickers or in game purchases are all forms of gambling, harmful fun, well it's not.

Saying that was wondering why overdraft charges are being ramped up so much 40%, so we are all potentially going to be covering the loss of revenue from gambling restrictions on credit cards, great!

Still easy for an addict to circumvent, if they can't their fix legitimately, they will look to the unregulated...

 

[dannyboy]

Did you know before your first drink or first bet that you wouldn't become addicted to either? Likely never crossed your mind, but it could have happened, nobody sets out to become an alcoholic or to get addicted to gambling.

I got suckered in with the free bet on Sky. I remember the first time I actually lost a bet for a fiver and feeling distraught. Within two years I was lashing half my wages on the next goal in some dodgy South American match at 3am in the morning. The more I lost, the more I wanted to try and win it back. It´s difficult to describe the cycle, the joy of a big win would last for around 10 seconds and then I´d be looking for the next opportunity.

I accept it was my own stupidity but once you´re in the cycle it´s difficult to get out. When you gamble online, you have no relationship with the money you´re spending. It´s like it´s not even real. Eventually, I found the balls to come clean to girlfriend and mates, they helped me a lot to get through it even though I was £3k in debt having squandered around £12k worth of earnings. Couldn´t tell the family as my Dad was an addict and it cost him his job and marriage. For them to think I´d gone down the same path as him would have been as bad it gets.

Guess in some ways I´m one of the lucky ones. I´d only ever have sympathy for people stuck in the vice. At the time, you think the only way out is to gamble more.

 

[Archie Knox]

Granted it's not as lucrative as it once was but this continued clamping down on the betting industry is going to have a hugely detrimental impact on us matched bettors. I started matched betting in August after I saw a post on GOT and it has given me extra money that has come in very handy indeed.

You'll have to start selling your arse outside the Lisbon instead to replace the extra money that has come in very handy indeed.

 

[Paris]

You'll have to start selling your arse outside the Lisbon instead to replace the extra money that has come in very handy indeed.

Difficult to do that whilst in Bangkok.

Perhaps I'll just become a transwoman myself.

 

[Archie Knox]

Difficult to do that whilst in Bangkok.

Perhaps I'll just become a transwoman myself.

Go down to Sukhumvit soi 34 and I am sure you'll find some punters mate. Get it, punters, betting, eh, eh? Enjoy Bangkok, great city.

 

[Archie Knox]

I got suckered in with the free bet on Sky. I remember the first time I actually lost a bet for a fiver and feeling distraught. Within two years I was lashing half my wages on the next goal in some dodgy South American match at 3am in the morning. The more I lost, the more I wanted to try and win it back. It´s difficult to describe the cycle, the joy of a big win would last for around 10 seconds and then I´d be looking for the next opportunity.

I accept it was my own stupidity but once you´re in the cycle it´s difficult to get out. When you gamble online, you have no relationship with the money you´re spending. It´s like it´s not even real. Eventually, I found the balls to come clean to girlfriend and mates, they helped me a lot to get through it even though I was £3k in debt having squandered around £12k worth of earnings. Couldn´t tell the family as my Dad was an addict and it cost him his job and marriage. For them to think I´d gone down the same path as him would have been as bad it gets.

Guess in some ways I´m one of the lucky ones. I´d only ever have sympathy for people stuck in the vice. At the time, you think the only way out is to gamble more.

Couldn't agree more, and I say exactly the same myself. I am 100% sure that if gamblers had a pile of notes in their room instead of a credit card, and they were able to see that pile get smaller and smaller, it'd soon cause them to understand the dangerous situation a lot better.

Regarding you 'coming clean', made up for you. It's not easy to talk about money, especially to family, so the fact you were able to do so says a lot about your character and how determined you were to beat the addiction.

My brother has never admitted to any of his family that he's an addict, but we know for sure he gambles on a weekly basis at the very minimum, has squandered around 12k inheritance money with nothing whatsoever to show for it, and has gone through about 15 payday loans and now owes about 5k. Our father got us into gambling at the greyhounds from a young age - or at least made us think that putting a few quid on at the tote was completely normal. Infact he'd kindly give us a couple of pounds and send us to the woman at the tote so we could put the bets on ourselves. He'd also, despite having little money himself, find money to put a decent chunk on one of his dogs at the guys standing there with the odds trackside. My brother has followed him into the greyhound 'industry', while me and my other brother have nothing at all to do with it... and lo and behold both my other brother and dad are broke and rely on my mother to basically fund their spending, and me and the other brother are doing absolutely fine.

When I was around 18 I recall getting involved with matched betting and was able to make a grand or two, but there was one time when I had that money sat in my account and just couldn't help myself in putting a few hundred on a dead cert - can't remember which team it was but it must have been something like the equivalent of City to win at home against Norwich, trying to turn that two grand into two and a half or three. Anyway, as luck would have it the team didn't win and all those weeks of work I had put in to make that money were more or less for nothing, and I never put on a bet of more than about £5 since.

Sounds like you could be a good advocate for people who need help getting away from gambling. Well done mate.

 

[dannyboy]

Couldn't agree more, and I say exactly the same myself. I am 100% sure that if gamblers had a pile of notes in their room instead of a credit card, and they were able to see that pile get smaller and smaller, it'd soon cause them to understand the dangerous situation a lot better.

Regarding you 'coming clean', made up for you. It's not easy to talk about money, especially to family, so the fact you were able to do so says a lot about your character and how determined you were to beat the addiction.

My brother has never admitted to any of his family that he's an addict, but we know for sure he gambles on a weekly basis at the very minimum, has squandered around 12k inheritance money with nothing whatsoever to show for it, and has gone through about 15 payday loans and now owes about 5k. Our father got us into gambling at the greyhounds from a young age - or at least made us think that putting a few quid on at the tote was completely normal. Infact he'd kindly give us a couple of pounds and send us to the woman at the tote so we could put the bets on ourselves. He'd also, despite having little money himself, find money to put a decent chunk on one of his dogs at the guys standing there with the odds trackside. My brother has followed him into the greyhound 'industry', while me and my other brother have nothing at all to do with it... and lo and behold both my other brother and dad are broke and rely on my mother to basically fund their spending, and me and the other brother are doing absolutely fine.

When I was around 18 I recall getting involved with matched betting and was able to make a grand or two, but there was one time when I had that money sat in my account and just couldn't help myself in putting a few hundred on a dead cert - can't remember which team it was but it must have been something like the equivalent of City to win at home against Norwich, trying to turn that two grand into two and a half or three. Anyway, as luck would have it the team didn't win and all those weeks of work I had put in to make that money were more or less for nothing, and I never put on a bet of more than about £5 since.

Sounds like you could be a good advocate for people who need help getting away from gambling. Well done mate.

Cheers mate, heartbreaking for your brother. I relinquished control and access to my finances for about 6 months. That´s how difficult I found it to beat the habit and I´m sure there are plenty who are the same as me. If I didn´t have people to keep tabs on my activity then I´m certain I would´ve relapsed the second the next pay cheque went into the bank. It´s very difficult to get over the problem alone because that would mean you taking control of the situation, that´s almost impossible because you lost control the moment you started chasing your losses. If people like your brother don´t reach out, I think it´s almost an impossible battle to face alone.

I´m really open about what happened to mates and even just people I talk to about gambling. They´ll think, ´What an idiot´ for squandering all the money I did but hopefully it makes them think twice about putting £100 on that dead cert at the weekend to top up funds for a piss up on Saturday night.

 

[Archie Knox]

Cheers mate, heartbreaking for your brother. I relinquished control and access to my finances for about 6 months. That´s how difficult I found it to beat the habit and I´m sure there are plenty who are the same as me. If I didn´t have people to keep tabs on my activity then I´m certain I would´ve relapsed the second the next pay cheque went into the bank. It´s very difficult to get over the problem alone because that would mean you taking control of the situation, that´s almost impossible because you lost control the moment you started chasing your losses. If people like your brother don´t reach out, I think it´s almost an impossible battle to face alone.

Therein lies the problem for many people. You need people around you you can trust, and people around you who have your best interests at heart. I, for example, set up a firewall on the internet so that all betting sites would at least be blocked on the wifi network. Would have worked until our dad demanded the firewall be lifted so that he himself could gamble - fully aware that his other son would be able to continue betting his life away! You couldn't make that stuff up. It also doesn't help when the addict himself refuses to talk about the subject, so really there is very little way to help, as you say. Terribly sad situation, but if people are unwilling to accept they have a problem or allow others to help ...

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Bet it wont happen...

What are the odds?

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

Fine by me

I hate SportsPesa and this would give us an excuse to kick em to the curb