POLL: Have Everton been a more enjoyable side to watch under Martinez so far?

[Del]

Your mistaking good football with good results, we smashed Newcastle and Fulham, just couldnt slot and conceded late goals.

So we have Southampton,Villa,Swansea,Fulham and Newcastle from a season that has 38 games not including cup games

Have I missed any other games?

 

[toffeejack]

The Tiki taka between Jags and Distin gave me eye Aids, I think its improved a bit now, Barry and McCarthy are more willing to drop and take the ball off them.

it's the only negative of the style so far imo. But they've been use to hoofing the ball for the last 5/6 years. they've probably forgotten how to pass the ball neatly. I don't think working purely on fitness rather than with the ball in training would have helped with this either.

 

[Goat]

So we have Southampton,Villa,Swansea,Fulham and Newcastle from a season that has 38 games not including cup games

Have I missed any other games?

I clearly stated the first half of the season, would you like me to review each of these games?

 

[toffeejack]

People need to go back and watch a replay of Southampton (a) last season if they don't think we're more entertaining. I honestly could not believe how bad we were in the opening 45 minutes of that game, moreso when you consider how important a match it was for us.

think this makes it less surprising mate, given the man at the helm

 

[Walken]

just not having that little yes man phil neville at the club makes everything more attractive in every way

 

[Del]

I clearly stated the first half of the season, would you like me to review each of these games?

Its not the first half of the season though

We have 5 games were we played boss out of 19 games

Hardly setting the world alight

Also I think the fact Fellaini was on top form during most of those games helped

 

[Goat]

Its not the first half of the season though

We have 5 games were we played boss out of 19 games

Hardly setting the world alight

Also I think the fact Fellaini was on top form during most of those games helped

And so far we have played really well in 1 half and ground out results in the others.

Thus meaning its not as enjoyable this season.

 

[Minimeister]

I know people are going on about passing it round at the back but I think the players have done fantastic getting used to a new style of play while actually still winning football matches.

I'm more interested in can Bob win us more football matches than Moyes did due to his negative, dull tactics. If you look at the second half on Saturday, I don't know what Bob did but he completely nullified them after half time. Whether that was the sub, which was much earlier than Moyes would of acted, or some subtle changes, we won a game that at half time was in doubt. If he keeps doing that and trying to play good football then it makes for a much more enjoyable trip to the match

 

[Del]

And so far we have played really well in 1 half and ground out results in the others.

Thus meaning its not as enjoyable this season.

I never said it was did I?

Its the fact you said we played some great stuff till Xmas when in reality it was about 5 games out of 16 that we played really well

Add in the defeats to Leeds,Reading and West Brom and the draws against Wigan,QPR and Norwich and it was not that great

 

[jtl60]

Wigan,QPR,Norwich,Leeds,Reading and West Brom we played poorly

Fulham and Newcastle we played well

RS about average

Reading away for 45 mins we were absolutely awesome it was the most one sided half of football you could want to see. Shame about the second half though

 

[Del]

Reading away for 45 mins we were absolutely awesome it was the most one sided half of football you could want to see. Shame about the second half though

So it was not that great then was it

Just like this season against West Ham or Newcastle

 

[Ihaters]

Anyone would think we got 15 points and finished last playing terrible football all season. A quick counter to the long ball, hoof and defend posts.

Just a quick look at the BBC results website and you can see the reports from last year... Yes we lost some and didn't win the league, we even got embarrassed a couple of times, but apart from Jan/Feb we were generally good at both results and performance, and even some of those in those two months were quality.

We've had decent possession, and played well last season throughout, not just for a month or whatever people are imagining, and were the better team in the majority of games.

Make of it what you will.. Here are some of the positive ones I found. Working backwards towards the start of the season:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/results

Possession stats are for Everton:
58%
Everton: 17 shots.. 10 on target
Fulham: 6 shots.. 2 on target
Better possesion

Arsenal: 10 shots.. 6 on target
Everton: 10 shots.. 5 on target.. not bad away to Arsenal.. 0-0..

QPR... 2-0 to us
55% possession
Better shots

Stoke:
55% possession
Everton: 15 shots: 9 on target
Stoke: 10: 5


Man City... 2-0 to us
Although worse stats, defended brilliantly and outplayed them for decent periods.

Reading
63% possession
Everton: Shots 18 - on target 12
Reading: Shots 12 - on target 6

VILLA 3-3
64% Possession
Everton 22 Shots 13 on target
VILLA 8 shots 4 on target...... 4 shots!!!! ... ****ers.

West Brom
63% possession
Everton: 11 shots: 4 on target
West Brom: 7 shots: 4 on target

Swansea: 0-0
53% possession:
Everton: 16 shots 8 on target
Swans: 4 shots.. 2 on target

Wigan:
56%
Everton Shots 17: on target:9
Wigan Shots: 10: on target 6

West Ham
Possesion 62%
Everton Shots 15: on target 8
West Ham Shots 6: on target: 5

Spurs:

Everton: Shots 17: On target: 11
Spurs: Shots 8: On target: 6

Arsenal:
Possession 53%
Everton - Shots 14: On target 10
Arsenal - Shots 12: On target 9

Norwich
Possession 56%
Everton: Shots: 14 on target 9
Norwich: shots: 8: on target 4

Reading
Possesion 54%
Everton: Shots: 21 On target: 11
Reading: Shots: 12 On target: 4

Sunderland
Possession 60%
Everton: Shots: 16 On target: 10
Sunderland: Shots: 10 On target: 4

Fulham
Possession 61%
Everton: Shots: 26 On target: 15
Fulham: Shots: 8 On target: 6

Liverpool
Possession 54%
Everton: Shots: 18 On target: 8
Liverpool: Shots: 12 On target: 5

Note: This only goes back as far as October which actually misses out our period where we were really good... i.e the superb start of the season.

They are here I just can't be arsed.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/match/index.html?event=3;season=2012/13;team=283

I have enough there that my argument can be backed up with relevant statistics...Stats may not tell everything but fk me they certainly point towards the idea that we didn't just long ball and defend all game, every game, doesn't it?

You simply don't get more shots and more possession than the opposition doing that.

 

[Del]

Anyone would think we got 15 points and finished last playing terrible football all season. A quick counter to the long ball, hoof and defend posts.

Just a quick look at the BBC results website and you can see the reports from last year... Yes we lost some and didn't win the league, we even got embarrassed a couple of times, but apart from Jan/Feb we were generally good at both results and performance, and even some of those in those two months were quality.

We've had decent possession, and played well last season throughout, not just for a month or whatever people are imagining, and were the better team in the majority of games.

Make of it what you will.. Here are some of the positive ones I found. Working backwards towards the start of the season:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/everton/results

Possession stats are for Everton:

Everton: 17 shots.. 10 on target
Fulham: 6 shots.. 2 on target
Better possesion

Arsenal: 10 shots.. 6 on target
Everton: 10 shots.. 5 on target.. not bad away to Arsenal.. 0-0..

QPR... 2-0 to us
Better shots and possession

Tottenham 2-2

Stoke:
Everton: 15 shots: 9 on target
Stoke: 10: 5
Better possession

Man City... 2-0 to us
Although worse stats, defended brilliantly and outplayed them for decent periods.

Reading
63% possession
Shots 18 - on target 12
Shots 12 - on target 6

VILLA 3-3
64% Possession
22 Shots 13 on target
8 shots 4 on target...... 4 shots!!!! ... ****ers.

West Brom
63% possession
11 shots: 4 on target
7 shots: 4 on target

Swansea: 0-0
53% possession:
Everton: 16 shots 8 on target
Swans: 4 shots.. 2 on target

Wigan:
56%
Everton Shots 17: on target:9
Wigan Shots: 10: on target 6

West Ham
Possesion 62%
Everton Shots 15: on target 8
West Ham Shots 6: on target: 5

Spurs:

Everton: Shots 17: On target: 11
Spurs: Shots 8: On target: 6

Arsenal:
Possession 53%
Everton - Shots 14: On target 10
Arsenal - Shots 12: On target 9

Norwich
Possession 56%
Everton: Shots: 14 on target 9
Norwich: shots: 8: on target 4

Reading
Possesion 54%
Everton: Shots: 21 On target: 11
Reading: Shots: 12 On target: 4

Sunderland
Possession 60%
Everton: Shots: 16 On target: 10
Sunderland: Shots: 10 On target: 4

Fulham
Possession 61%
Everton: Shots: 26 On target: 15
Fulham: Shots: 8 On target: 6

Liverpool
Possession 54%
Everton: Shots: 18 On target: 8
Liverpool: Shots: 12 On target: 5

Note: This only goes back as far as October which actually misses out our period where we were really good... i.e the superb start of the season.

They are here I just can't be arsed.
http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/match/index.html?event=3;season=2012/13;team=283

I have enough there that my argument can be backed up with relevant statistics...Stats may not tell everything but fk me they certainly point towards the idea that we didn't just long ball and defend all game, every game, doesn't it?

You simply don't get more shots and more possession than the opposition doing that.

Would look good on RAWK this

 

[Ihaters]

Would look good on RAWK this

So would 6th last season... but we got that one. With our superior play and better results.

 

[Woolly Blue]

What do you reckon?

What a daft question, of course we have.
I only voted No because there was no cheese on toast option and I expected better from a long standing owner like yourself.