Pienaar to return?

[Azzurri]

As strange as it sounds, this move might well be the making of Seamus Coleman as a right back. He's probably our 4th choice for 2 winger positions now, so I think that, with Neville being gash and Hibbo likewise, Coleman may get put in at right back when he returns. Which would be interesting.

 

[harry]

As strange as it sounds, this move might well be the making of Seamus Coleman as a right back. He's probably our 4th choice for 2 winger positions now, so I think that, with Neville being gash and Hibbo likewise, Coleman may get put in at right back when he returns. Which would be interesting.

I hope so but I doubt it.

 

[Azzurri]

I hope so but I doubt it.

Me too really.

But you never know - even Moyes is probably sick of how sh*t Neville is.

 

[iToffee]

He was never worth a long term contract of 70k a week. Not on our budget anyway. We do pay competitive wages, there was only Chelsea and Spurs willing to pay more. You can't let your competitors set the price of your wages.

The problem lies with the player and the extent of his avarice and this is one of the many things utterly fücked up about football. Pienaar is already richer than midas. Earning an extra 10k - 15k is neither here nor there.

When he left I said on these forums that Everton we're losing a good player but Spurs wasn't gaining one. Why did I know that it wouldn't work out at Spurs? It was obvious to the world and his dog that's why. When Pienaar went to Germany he didn't get on with his team mates didn't have a tightly knit family club to play for and was often overlooked for other players - his performances then dropped; unlike at Ajax where he was star of the show. He comes to Everton and finds a home again. A small squad he soon works his way into the starting 11. What does he do? throw that away for a few extra quid.

Fastforward a year after playing 3 games of football and he's back again and we are meant to say all is forgiven. Personally I think money mad footballers like him are a huge part of the problem in football. It's the main reason why we have to pay £30 plus for a ticket and still have to keep selling players to stay afloat.

Pienaar can doubtless work his way back into our hearts, but instead of citing all that crap about 'wanting a move for ambition', I'd prefer a little transparency about his real motives. All these 'ambitious' players when they hang up their boots on their 'short careers' with their 'got to think about my family' families, can think of the years they wasted on the bench and in the reserves for teams that never really wanted them or would play them just because they wanted a few extra quid.

Who knows we could've won something if he'd stayed. We'll never know.

Fantastic post. Summed up to perfection IMHO.

 

[ijjysmith]

Fantastic post. Summed up to perfection IMHO.

Are you available on iTunes mate?

 

[Brennan]

He was never worth a long term contract of 70k a week. Not on our budget anyway.

Arteta was on that, and Pienaar was just as important to our goal scoring as he was, especially during the period they were both there.

 

[Goat]

He was never worth a long term contract of 70k a week. Not on our budget anyway. We do pay competitive wages, there was only Chelsea and Spurs willing to pay more. You can't let your competitors set the price of your wages.

The problem lies with the player and the extent of his avarice and this is one of the many things utterly fücked up about football. Pienaar is already richer than midas. Earning an extra 10k - 15k is neither here nor there.

When he left I said on these forums that Everton we're losing a good player but Spurs wasn't gaining one. Why did I know that it wouldn't work out at Spurs? It was obvious to the world and his dog that's why. When Pienaar went to Germany he didn't get on with his team mates didn't have a tightly knit family club to play for and was often overlooked for other players - his performances then dropped; unlike at Ajax where he was star of the show. He comes to Everton and finds a home again. A small squad he soon works his way into the starting 11. What does he do? throw that away for a few extra quid.

Fastforward a year after playing 3 games of football and he's back again and we are meant to say all is forgiven. Personally I think money mad footballers like him are a huge part of the problem in football. It's the main reason why we have to pay £30 plus for a ticket and still have to keep selling players to stay afloat.

Pienaar can doubtless work his way back into our hearts, but instead of citing all that crap about 'wanting a move for ambition', I'd prefer a little transparency about his real motives. All these 'ambitious' players when they hang up their boots on their 'short careers' with their 'got to think about my family' families, can think of the years they wasted on the bench and in the reserves for teams that never really wanted them or would play them just because they wanted a few extra quid.

Who knows we could've won something if he'd stayed. We'll never know.

Tosh.

"Earning an extra 10k - 15k is neither here nor there."

10k a week = 520k a Year over a 4 Year contract = 2m.

Yeah, 2m is nothing is it really...........

He moved for money, he moved to further his career, he moved cos he hated Moyes, he moved cos Kenwrong touched him.

What ever the reason, it didnt work out and hes an excellent player for us, I welcome him back with open arms

 

[Neiler]

Good player, bad snide always for me. Content hes back though, we need the bods, never rated him as highly as a lot of our fans do. Big question is do we have an option to buy, as with Roy and Strauq.

 

[The Equaliser]

It will be great to have him back because he will give us extra options. Whether or not he can regain the form he had before he left (and which he continued right up until then tbf) remains to be seen. It's worth remembering that Fernandes was never the same when he came back. He'll have to win a some sceptics over but hopefully he will do that through his performances.

 

[neonleon]

Tosh.

"Earning an extra 10k - 15k is neither here nor there."

10k a week = 520k a Year over a 4 Year contract = 2m.

Yeah, 2m is nothing is it really...........

He moved for money, he moved to further his career, he moved cos he hated Moyes, he moved cos Kenwrong touched him.

What ever the reason, it didnt work out and hes an excellent player for us, I welcome him back with open arms

First off he gets taxed on that so it's half that figure. Of course a million pound is a lot of money. But to a footballer already earning millions in endorsements and sponsorships maybe not so much.
What does an extra million get you in way of quality of life if you've already got 40 million in the bank? A few cars? Another holiday home?

If he was put on earth to play football, and God has given him (and I use the rhetoric of monotheism because he seems to believe in that) this great talent to play football—why gamble first team football in an environment you've proven to be productive in to sit on a bench and play about 300 minutes of football (over the whole of last year) during the very zenith of your creative and physical talents?

The cliché of course contains a kernel of truth. It is a short career, football. When he sits down and talks to his grandchildren they can ask him about the goals he scored when he was 28 and he can tell them he was polishing the spurs bench with his arse whilst counting the pound signs.

Give me a player with medals and trophies in their eyes not pound signs.

 

[heatmeiser]

I'm still surprised how underrated he is by some evertonians.

I can't wait to see him linking up with Baines and scaring the opposition with his frighteningly and unexpectedly booming voice and flouncy cornrows.

 

[neonleon]

Look I like him as a player. And he's exactly what we need.

I'm just still pissed off he left us in the first place.

Provided he works hard he'll win me and others like me back I'm sure. Evertonian's can be forgiving.

Just highlighting its evidence #235 of why money has ruined football.

 

[neonleon]

I'm still surprised how underrated he is by some evertonians.

I can't wait to see him linking up with Baines and scaring the opposition with his frighteningly and unexpectedly booming voice and flouncy cornrows.

His voice is ace isn't it. Looks like a pipsqueak. Sounds like Tom Waits. How he puts 90 minutes in when he's smoking 40 marlboro a day I'll never know.

 

[McBain]

Neon is absolutely bang on.

Well played Sir.

 

[Azzurri]

Well, I'll be at Wigan on Saturday and he'll have my full support from the first whistle.

Hope everyone there feels the same way.