Obama

[Allezfan]

That's the way, treat your friends like crap..........

Countries don't have friends they have interests.

Ask portugal about the pink map some day.

 

[peteblue]

Could a Brexiter point out one reputable independent study that thinks that the UK would be better off if we left Europe?

We won't actually leave Europe. We just won't be in the EU. The EU trades with the UK and sells more to us than we do to them. If we leave and they refuse to trade then they will lose. If we leave and they continue to trade it will have no effect upon us. Our GDP can only drop by a couple of percent at worst and free of Brussels we can do export deals on our own with the Commonwealth to easily cover this. We are being constrained by a group who are navel gazing.......

 

[rascal]

Personally, I would be glad not to allow him in the country again. In the UK he has the strongest ally in the world, but he has repeatedly done us down. If he wants to take the USA away from the UK then good luck with that, I'm sure China and Russia would soon be knocking on the door of 10 Downing ST...........

On what issues has he done us down?

 

[bizzaro]

We won't actually leave Europe. We just won't be in the EU. The EU trades with the UK and sells more to us than we do to them. If we leave and they refuse to trade then they will lose. If we leave and they continue to trade it will have no effect upon us. Our GDP can only drop by a couple of percent at worst and free of Brussels we can do export deals on our own with the Commonwealth to easily cover this. We are being constrained by a group who are navel gazing.......

This is utterly delusional thinking.

 

[peteblue]

I've already got contingency plans to open offices in Ireland in the event of a Brexit. Many other companies I know of have similar contingency plans.

The ones talking about ROW trade don't understand what that actually comes from.

It will cause severe economic damage to the UK. Jobs will move to Ireland.

Hahaha, if we leave the EU, Ireland will follow as we are their biggest trading partner......good luck with that strategy.......

 

[bizzaro]

On what issues has he done us down?

None. Its a complete fabrication.

 

[rascal]

We won't actually leave Europe. We just won't be in the EU. The EU trades with the UK and sells more to us than we do to them. If we leave and they refuse to trade then they will lose. If we leave and they continue to trade it will have no effect upon us. Our GDP can only drop by a couple of percent at worst and free of Brussels we can do export deals on our own with the Commonwealth to easily cover this. We are being constrained by a group who are navel gazing.......

I accept that I should have said EU instead of Europe.

So, can you name one reputable independent study that thinks that the UK would be better off if we left the EU?

 

[peteblue]

This is utterly delusional thinking.

Says the man moving to Ireland........

 

[bizzaro]

Hahaha, if we leave the EU, Ireland will follow as we are their biggest trading partner......good luck with that strategy.......

No they won't. You really are coming out with some absolute codswalp mate.

Literally, I'm opening offices in Ireland in the event of a Brexit. I have to for legal reasons in one of my businesses. That actually facilitates trade with from the USA to EU/EEA.

 

[peteblue]

On what issues has he done us down?

Barack Obama tonight warned Britain would be at the 'back of the queue' for a trade deal with America if it quits the EU.

In an extraordinary intervention standing alongside David Cameron at the Foreign Office, the US President warned there was no prospect of a deal 'any time soon'.

Mr Obama defended his right to comment on Britain's June 23 poll despite claims from Leave campaigners that he was being 'hypocritical' and had 'double standards'.

The President insisted his remarks, which have been long planned by Mr Cameron's In campaign, were not a 'threat' to Britain.

 

[Allezfan]

In all honesty though pete I work in a university.

For domestic students we charge 3,000 grand a year and get a subsidy from the government to cover the rest.

For Foreign non eu students we charge the students 4 times that.

For Foreign eu students we charge the students 4 times and get a subsidy twice what we get from the uk government.

We make a loss on every domestic student and fund that by teaching foreign students.

If we leave the eu, we'd lose 35% of our funding. Which means we'd need to vastly cut our resources.

And we're the best scientific university in the EU by the grades. We cut our funding for chemistry and biology and physics and we'd lose brain power to the rest of the eu.

 

[rascal]

No they won't. You really are coming out with some absolute codswalp mate.

Literally, I'm opening offices in Ireland in the event of a Brexit. I have to for legal reasons in one of my businesses. That actually facilitates trade with from the USA to EU/EEA.

You're free to open up an office in the Kingdom of Mercia once we've freed ourselves of the pesky UK and its pesky overreaching, regulations.

 

[bizzaro]

Barack Obama tonight warned Britain would be at the 'back of the queue' for a trade deal with America if it quits the EU.

In an extraordinary intervention standing alongside David Cameron at the Foreign Office, the US President warned there was no prospect of a deal 'any time soon'.

Mr Obama defended his right to comment on Britain's June 23 poll despite claims from Leave campaigners that he was being 'hypocritical' and had 'double standards'.

The President insisted his remarks, which have been long planned by Mr Cameron's In campaign, were not a 'threat' to Britain.

@rascal

I can confirm what Obama is saying. Trade wise. Ireland will be ahead of us in terms of the USA.

They will. Pete can deny it all he wants but this is a fact.

We are predominantly a 'service based economy' much of UK's exports to USA are service based. Value added services.

That will go to Ireland in the event of Brexit.

 

[peteblue]

No they won't. You really are coming out with some absolute codswalp mate.

Literally, I'm opening offices in Ireland in the event of a Brexit. I have to for legal reasons in one of my businesses. That actually facilitates trade with from the USA to EU/EEA.

Good luck with that, but I'd wait until after June 23 if I were you..........if the Eu plays silly buggers with us and Ireland stays in the Eu, with whom will they trade.........

 

[rascal]

Barack Obama tonight warned Britain would be at the 'back of the queue' for a trade deal with America if it quits the EU.

In an extraordinary intervention standing alongside David Cameron at the Foreign Office, the US President warned there was no prospect of a deal 'any time soon'.

Mr Obama defended his right to comment on Britain's June 23 poll despite claims from Leave campaigners that he was being 'hypocritical' and had 'double standards'.

The President insisted his remarks, which have been long planned by Mr Cameron's In campaign, were not a 'threat' to Britain.

That's not doing us down, that's just a truth bomb. He's literally dropped a truth bomb right on the heads of Farage, Gove, IDS and Johnson, and the swivel eyed, lemon suckers among us don't like it.