Nick Griffin

[malfosse]

Has anyone said anything different?

Would you like to read your post #16 again, and get down off your high horse. Are you allowing free speech on this forum, or should we run everything past you before we post anything.

 

[EFCNIK]

Would you like to read your post #16 again, and get down off your high horse. Are you allowing free speech on this forum, or should we run everything past you before we post anything.

I'm glad you understand how things are run around here. Please PM me before you post. Thanks mate.

 

[malcson]

Nick Griffin is clearly quite embarrassed by all this media attention, he doesn't know where to look!

 

[EFCNIK]

Hahahaha what a minger.

 

[Bungle]

Would you like to read your post #16 again, and get down off your high horse. Are you allowing free speech on this forum, or should we run everything past you before we post anything.

 

[malcson]

Tbh my main gripe with our ridiculous immigration policy is not that they take jobs, as they are contributing to our society, but that the crime levels and ghetto areas that spring up. Not to mention hate preaching and so on so forth.

Most people (normal people I add) who realise how stupid we are with how many and who we let in, could not give a **** about race or even religion. If you contribute to our society and conform with our way of life then there is absolutely no problem. Unfortunatly we go to far the other way and I'd say a huge percentage of our immigrants are here for the wrong reasons.

These are already in place, often populated by third or fourth generation immigrants. It's not really an issue caused by new people entering the country. I agree we do need to control how many people can come into the country, I just don't sign up to the whole "the country is going to **** and it's the fault of immigrants".

 

[malfosse]

I'm glad you understand how things are run around here. Please PM me before you post. Thanks mate.

No problem mate.

 

[Blue 1]

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I don't care what you said, that f***ing rapey ewok avatar kills me. Proper makes me laugh.

 

[EFCNIK]

These are already in place, often populated by third or fourth generation immigrants. It's not really an issue caused by new people entering the country. I agree we do need to control how many people can come into the country, I just don't sign up to the whole "the country is going to **** and it's the fault of immigrants".

Oh yeah it's us and our governments who are purely at fault imo. If I was an immigrant I'd look at Britain and think '****ing hell, look what I can get away with here!' Or for the decent people who come to work and earn a living and contribute I'd think 'look at the money I can earn here compared to back home'.

Cant really blame them.

 

[malfosse]

I don't care what you said, that f***ing rapey ewok avatar kills me. Proper makes me laugh.

Just don't look into his eyes.

 

[Tubey]

Trouble is, we need the tax take from the migrants. They make a net contribution to the treasury. We've a badly top-heavy population, agewise, and someone needs to pay their pensions.

Correct.

It's not just tax from the immigrant, it's the tertiary effect of local businesses supporting the immigration population, like shops, financial services, pubs etc.

By the way Nik, you're getting EU and non-EU issues entangled and forming a wider view without many facts. Polish people don't hate preach, for example.

In regards to EU migration, people on here are apparently unaware of things like the habitual residency test which all but prevents benefit claimants for temporary workers who try to fiddle the system - they literally cannot just walk across the border and make a claim for benefits, it just can't be done - or the employment statistics of EU migrants.

To be honest, non-EU immigrants cause 99% of the perceived issues on here. The economic (job) test for non-EU immigrants is much looser, the reasons for entering the country are often based on personal (asylum) reasons or wedding a British person, and unfortunately this area of immigration is growing by 2% a year even under the Tories so any perceived issues are exacerbated year on year.

You may note I say "perceived" issues, because non-EU immigration is still barely a statistic in terms of overall population. They really are a minority, yet you'd believe we were absolutely flooded with terrorists intent on imposing Sharia Law next week if you believed some people on here!

Bare in mind the net migration figure is about 250,000, yet our population is 62 million.

So, for me, I agree we need to tighten the borders in regards to people coming in from Asia and Africa, but the stated problems on this thread are overblown dramatically, and the benefits of EU migration to our country blow out of the water the downsides.

 

[Bungle]

I don't care what you said, that f***ing rapey ewok avatar kills me. Proper makes me laugh.

 

[malfosse]

Oh yeah it's us and our governments who are purely at fault imo. If I was an immigrant I'd look at Britain and think '****ing hell, look what I can get away with here!' Or for the decent people who come to work and earn a living and contribute I'd think 'look at the money I can earn here compared to back home'.

Cant really blame them.

What are your views on immigration, I don't think i've heard them?

 

[EFCNIK]

Tbh, is it unfair to say shut the boarders completely for like 2 years or so until we sort the mess out?

 

[EFCNIK]

What are your views on immigration, I don't think i've heard them?

People carry on the conversation so so do I.

End of the day it's very easy to have liberal views on a forum, you're always going to look good. And its very easy to make someone with my views look bad, or look like something Im not. I just dont let get to me.