NFL 2021

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Excellent round of games this past weekend

 

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[Kev The Rat]

Oh you are funny.

Ja'Marr Chase destroyed the Chiefs' secondary in the previous fixture. Nothing to do with officiating.

Now, I'm a Bengals fan but I would expect the Chiefs to win this time - apart from anything else the Titans just provided the blueprint for doing exactly that. The Bengals OLine is an utter mess and a decent four-man rush will beat the protection over and over, so if the Chiefs get an early lead and force Burrow to throw more they should win... IF they've done their film study on Chase (and Higgins and Uzomah) to address the fact he was wide open every play in the last fixture.

Outplayed. LOL.

Well thats what I mean about the Bengals being one dimensional - its lob the ball up to Chase or Higgins and hope their skill comes up trumps.

I thought the Chiefs would be in a battle with Buffalo, and was proved right

I dont have a specific problem with Cincy, I just know a blow-out when I see one.

This looks more like the Bengals will be mere onlookers to the latest Chiefs AFC Championship coronation.

Andy Reid on Chiefs penalties: I'd like to comment, but I don't want to be fined

The Chiefs lost 34-31 in Cincinnati on Sunday and they were flagged for 10 accepted penalties on the way to that final score.

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[TheBigIguana]

Changing the overtime rules is a distraction from the real problem. Every rule change in the last 50 years has made it easier to move the ball and score points… but now the passing offenses are too good. Trying to stop them at the end of the game when they throw on almost every play is impossible. The Bucs blitzed on defense at the end and that didn’t work. The Bills sat way back on defense at the end and that didn’t work, either.

You have teams making counterintuitive and quite honestly insane decisions at the end of games. Like the Bengals a few weeks ago, passing on a go-ahead FG with a minute left to play and going for it because they knew they couldn’t afford to give Mahomes the ball back. It’s time for the league to do something and give the defenses a fighting chance again.

I agree with this. Two easy fixes for me. Clamp down on OPI. Receivers get away with so much. Pick plays, running into the defender at the top of routes, pushing off in breaks where the defender can't possibly defend without holding, shoves on deep balls. None of it gets called and then a DB touches someone and the flag flies. Second is get rid of QB slides. If you want to run you have to get hit. It's basically free yards right now.

 

[mmmmsnouts]

I agree with this. Two easy fixes for me. Clamp down on OPI. Receivers get away with so much. Pick plays, running into the defender at the top of routes, pushing off in breaks where the defender can't possibly defend without holding, shoves on deep balls. None of it gets called and then a DB touches someone and the flag flies. Second is get rid of QB slides. If you want to run you have to get hit. It's basically free yards right now.

I would let the DBs get more physical. Extend the legal contact zone from 5 to 10 yards so you can’t make these easy pitches and catches all day.

We’re not going all the way back to the 1970s with the passing game because the players and schemes are so much better now… but at least back to like 2000 would be good. The game was much more balanced then. Right now it’s out of control. When the Bills scored on the first play following the two-minute warning I told my mates, “1:54 left and three timeouts apiece, probably time for like 3 more possessions” and I ended up being exactly right.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I would let the DBs get more physical. Extend the legal contact zone from 5 to 10 yards so you can’t make these easy pitches and catches all day.

We’re not going all the way back to the 1970s with the passing game because the players and schemes are so much better now… but at least back to like 2000 would be good. The game was much more balanced then. Right now it’s out of control. When the Bills scored on the first play following the two-minute warning I told my mates, “1:54 left and three timeouts apiece, probably time for like 3 more possessions” and I ended up being exactly right.

It's getting closer to the NBA and 3 point shooting where you have to be good at it to win and stopping the good teams is more about a bit of luck than actual skill. I'd say that isn't the best thing. What made last night awesome was that we don't have those weekly but we're getting closer and closer.

 

[TN Toffee]

I agree with this. Two easy fixes for me. Clamp down on OPI. Receivers get away with so much. Pick plays, running into the defender at the top of routes, pushing off in breaks where the defender can't possibly defend without holding, shoves on deep balls. None of it gets called and then a DB touches someone and the flag flies. Second is get rid of QB slides. If you want to run you have to get hit. It's basically free yards right now.

There was a definite shift in power towards passing offenses in the early 2000’s when the Manning era Colts starting whining about Belichick’s defenses being too physical. IMO however, the reason it’s gotten so out of hand now is simply down to necessary changes to the game for the sake of safety. QB’s are almost no-go zones when it comes to hitting. Simply running a route across the middle of the field makes a receiver inherently defenseless, so DB’s have to allow them to make catches and then try to get them down. I’m not sure how you really get around that and still have the game be sustainable into the future. For better or for worse, the game can’t ever return to the level of physicality we all grew up watching.

 

[TheBigIguana]

There was a definite shift in power towards passing offenses in the early 2000’s when the Manning era Colts starting whining about Belichick’s defenses being too physical. IMO however, the reason it’s gotten so out of hand now is simply down to necessary changes to the game for the sake of safety. QB’s are almost no-go zones when it comes to hitting. Simply running a route across the middle of the field makes a receiver inherently defenseless, so DB’s have to allow them to make catches and then try to get them down. I’m not sure how you really get around that and still have the game be sustainable into the future. For better or for worse, the game can’t ever return to the level of physicality we all grew up watching.

It's never going to be what it was. But you could definitely officiate the defensive backfield differently when it comes to what receivers can acceptably do to corners versus what corners can do back. My favorite example from this year was in the first Ravens Steelers game where Diontae Johnson pushed off so Averett held on for half a second basically as the only means of not letting him wide open, causing a pick and having it come back for holding. The corner's options often are 1. hold or 2. get pushed out of the play and that really can be changed.

QBs in the pocket should be protected. QBs scrambling should not. Ban the slide. You want to run then you have to play football.

 

[TN Toffee]

QBs in the pocket should be protected. QBs scrambling should not. Ban the slide. You want to run then you have to play football.

I don’t hate that idea, but can’t really ever see it being implemented. Mainly because QB’s are pretty much the face of the league, and it’s bad for business if the big names are getting hurt.

 

[TheBigIguana]

I don’t hate that idea, but can’t really ever see it being implemented. Mainly because QB’s are pretty much the face of the league, and it’s bad for business if the big names are getting hurt.

Oh I agree it isn't happening but I watch the game last night and you just have no chance because even good coverage turns into 10 yard scrambles. At least make them think about it when they tuck and run.

 

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[mmmmsnouts]

There was a definite shift in power towards passing offenses in the early 2000’s when the Manning era Colts starting whining about Belichick’s defenses being too physical. IMO however, the reason it’s gotten so out of hand now is simply down to necessary changes to the game for the sake of safety. QB’s are almost no-go zones when it comes to hitting. Simply running a route across the middle of the field makes a receiver inherently defenseless, so DB’s have to allow them to make catches and then try to get them down. I’m not sure how you really get around that and still have the game be sustainable into the future. For better or for worse, the game can’t ever return to the level of physicality we all grew up watching.

You could still let the defensive players jostle and bump the receivers more than they’re allowed today. We definitely don’t want to go back to headhunter safeties leading with their helmets and blasting receivers into next week… but the game the way it is now, where the defenses don’t really have a chance, isn’t sustainable either.

 

[TN Toffee]

You could still let the defensive players jostle and bump the receivers more than they’re allowed today. We definitely don’t want to go back to headhunter safeties leading with their helmets and blasting receivers into next week… but the game the way it is now, where the defenses don’t really have a chance, isn’t sustainable either.

Which would basically be reverting to the rules that were in place prior to the Colts spending the offseason crying about getting bodied at Foxboro in that playoff game in the early 2000’s. I agree that would be a big improvement.

 

[Mozza1987]

The OT rules are crap. The other team should be allowed to respond.

 

[SerenityNigh]

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