New Stadium question

[Groucho]

I think the board need to look at trying to get outside funding help for a new stadium with them having name rights , IMO we need to be promoting the club to these middle east playboys tell them how by them part funding a new stadium on stanley park it will make a statement of how the blue side of merseyside have overtaken the reds who once planned to build on there themselves.

Not keen on naming rights to be honest.

 

[ToffeeMike]

Thats what I have never got on the whole new ground thing. Yeah, for 2 or 3 games a season we would fill a 50000 seater, but unless the prices were like £10 or something, the others we would be at our usual 35-39000. So why would spending squillions on a new ground improve our matchday income significantly?

Good point with the income, we wouldn't generate enough money on matchday sales.

 

[johnnydawg68]

Thats what I have never got on the whole new ground thing. Yeah, for 2 or 3 games a season we would fill a 50000 seater, but unless the prices were like £10 or something, the others we would be at our usual 35-39000. So why would spending squillions on a new ground improve our matchday income significantly?

You can make the same money getting 50k to a game at a lower price as you can getting 35k at a higher price. You'd make more money from concessions too (assuming the Club got to keep that or a large portion). You can also sell more merch on gameday etc. This is Business 101. You also create a much larger number of regular match goers and that becomes a habit. I'll guarantee regulars spend more money on Everton related things than non-match goers do.

 

[roydo]

Not keen on naming rights to be honest.

Christ, no way IMO. They all begin in "The" for starters, which is basically naff. Trouble is, it would all be in the "spirit" of FFP, so paying £200m for naming your own stadium counts as revenue. All a load of shoit.

 

[Allezfan]

You can make the same money getting 50k to a game at a lower price as you can getting 35k at a higher price.

Our prices are pretty low anyway tbh.

 

[roydo]

You can make the same money getting 50k to a game at a lower price as you can getting 35k at a higher price. You'd make more money from concessions too (assuming the Club got to keep that or a large portion). You can also sell more merch on gameday etc. This is Business 101. You also create a much larger number of regular match goers and that becomes a habit. I'll guarantee regulars spend more money on Everton related things than non-match goers do.

Yeah, sure you can. But enough to justify spending/borrowing £200m or something like that? Saw in a survey last year that Man U make an average take of £55 per fan, per match. Chelsea was more like £80 per fan. Difference is, Man u could tack on 20000 more seats at OT, and still sell out, not so sure about Chelsea being able to sell out the equivalent, every week.

If we had a 70000 all seater, at £10 per ticket, it would be interesting to see the take up, and revenue stream though.

 

[Cena]

While I completely understand the sentiment...would/did you feel the same about KD? And I'm not playing devil's advo here, just asking.

No I know you're just asking mate.

At the time I was all for KD, however in the years since my views have changed. A large part of the reason for that is that if Everton leave Walton, it would destroy the area.

For argument sake, a retail park (sickens me to think of this) could be built of the site of Goodison. Local business and pubs would close and the monopoly of a Tesco would take over.

It's home, it's where we should stay in my opinion.

 

[Brennan]

Thats what I have never got on the whole new ground thing. Yeah, for 2 or 3 games a season we would fill a 50000 seater, but unless the prices were like £10 or something, the others we would be at our usual 35-39000. So why would spending squillions on a new ground improve our matchday income significantly?

Hospitality.

 

[roydo]

Hospitality.

Depressingly, that is it isnt it?

 

[Allezfan]

I like goodison, would be weird to move.

Rather stay where we are.

 

[johnnydawg68]

Yeah, sure you can. But enough to justify spending/borrowing £200m or something like that? Saw in a survey last year that Man U make an average take of £55 per fan, per match. Chelsea was more like £80 per fan. Difference is, Man u could tack on 20000 more seats at OT, and still sell out, not so sure about Chelsea being able to sell out the equivalent, every week.

If we had a 70000 all seater, at £10 per ticket, it would be interesting to see the take up, and revenue stream though.

You'd obviously have to do the surveys and run the numbers. Everton are a big club. I'm pretty sure there's more than 35k that would go to a match every other weekend under the right conditions, i.e. no obstructed views, easy access via car/train/bus, comfortable seating, restroom access, food/beverage, suites etc.

The key is to keep and grow the associated revenue from a match day, not simply looking at from a ticket revenue standpoint.

But yes the ROI is over a long period of time. You're not going to make up 200 million or whatever in 5 years.

 

[Blue Tit]

A ground share would be embarrassing as far as I'm concerned.

60,000 capacity and we'd only fill half of it.

Liverpool have a bigger fanbase so they'd fill it every week, it would give them something to laugh about.

Yes but we'd be more attractive to investors and more likely to be taken over and spend a few £, and then some more fans would magically appear.

Like City

 

[roydo]

You'd obviously have to do the surveys and run the numbers. Everton are a big club. I'm pretty sure there's than 35k that would go to a match every other weekend under the right conditions, i.e. no obstructed views, easy accessmore via car/train/bus, comfortable seating, restroom access, food/beverage, suites etc.

The key is to keep and grow the associated revenue from a match day, not simply looking at from a ticket revenue standpoint.

But yes the ROI is over a long period of time. You're not going to make up 200 million or whatever in 5 years.

Mate, I do not believe anyone doesnt go to GP because of any of that. They dont go because;

1. Not Eberton fans.
2. Cant go. Geography/No cash/commitments.

 

[LITLEJOE]

anyone who wants to move from Goodison must be mad.

great great old staduim, proper football stadium.

just needs a face lift.

 

[Allezfan]

Mate, I do not believe anyone doesnt go to GP because of any of that. They dont go because;

1. Not Eberton fans.
2. Cant go. Geography/No cash/commitments.

No cash, mostly.