Netherlands piloting women to play men's football

[Lloydystark]

It would open a massive can of worms like MASSIVE.... equal pay, equal amounts of females on the team, not enough females getting a chance, not enough female managers etc.... at the end of day I think women’s football is improving and getting more coverage but why do we need to combine the 2?

 

[Lloydystark]

In terms of different physicality, I'd love to see Rapino, that virtue signalling arrogant US women's player, who uses the world Cup to blather her own political agenda and then demands pay parity get clattered by a 4th div centre back. Would pipe her right down.

Just imagine Kevin muscat or Roy Keane tackling her... make it happen just once for her

 

[Tin-Tin]

In terms of different physicality, I'd love to see Rapino, that virtue signalling arrogant US women's player, who uses the world Cup to blather her own political agenda and then demands pay parity get clattered by a 4th div centre back. Would pipe her right down.

She's not actually that good. A female player in the mens league would have to be so much technically better than her.

I dont think there are many around at the moment that are that good, but give it another 10 years or so there could be.

 

[The binman chronicles]

The Davies Bernard comment was slightly tongue in cheek but I seriously dont think they are much 'stronger' than women physically, just as you say more stamina, endurance etc, but then not all top level male footballers can cope in the PL either.

I think Bernard being kind of average height and weight of a female player (not too dissimilar to Rapinoe) would still probably be at least 15-20% stronger than 80% of all female players. Davies pushing 6 foot is probably going up a notch again on strength and the percentage would be in the 90's. It's still going to be fairly considerable.

 

[Tin-Tin]

It would open a massive can of worms like MASSIVE.... equal pay, equal amounts of females on the team, not enough females getting a chance, not enough female managers etc.... at the end of day I think women’s football is improving and getting more coverage but why do we need to combine the 2?

Think your looking at this all wrong. Its a professional sports business, not the local Tesco where men an women deserve equal pay.

Wages are determined by skill levels in all professional sports, better players equal better wages - there wont be any female fixed wage token nor the requirement to employ more female players. (Maybe ref's/Managers/Coaches etc but thats a different argument)

The whole discussion is that if a say once in a generation female comes along who has the skills to play in the mens game, should a team not be allowed to sign her? Yes they should.

Who are we to argue, its their money.

 

[barneygumble]

Still a long, long way off for me personally.

I think with the recent push of funding allowing greater exposure is huge for women’s football. It’s almost like grassroots.

more money, means better everything (if managed correctly), and it can only grow. But at present, the standard is poor, maybe exposure in the men’s game will help.

 

[artetas_biggest_fan]

Apart from the obvious (bigger, stronger, faster), women’s football is terrible. It’s terrible not by men’s standards, but by women’s.

Pound for pound, women’s tennis is as good as men’s. Reason being they have played at the same level for over a century. The power or running naturally won’t be the same, but the technique is not dissimilar. A Graf whipped forehand is on a level with Federer. Quite a few sports in the Olympics are also at the same level technique wise (gymnastics being the obvious one), as they have had both sexes partaking in it for a long time.

Women’s football is in it’s infancy. The coaching that women’s tennis and gymnastics have had has been top notch, on the same level as the men, and over many decades, in contrast to the neglected women’s football. The only people that coach in the women’s game are those that can’t get one in the men’s. It boils down to money. No half decent coach will work for peanuts. They would sooner work for a 5th tier men’s team and earn more than a top tier women’s team and earn less. I cannot see that disparity ever changing to the point women’s football is on a similar level to women’s tennis.

 

[Tin-Tin]

Apart from the obvious (bigger, stronger, faster), women’s football is terrible. It’s terrible not by men’s standards, but by women’s.

Pound for pound, women’s tennis is as good as men’s. Reason being they have played at the same level for over a century. The power or running naturally won’t be the same, but the technique is not dissimilar. A Graf whipped forehand is on a level with Federer. Quite a few sports in the Olympics are also at the same level technique wise (gymnastics being the obvious one), as they have had both sexes partaking in it for a long time.

Women’s football is in it’s infancy. The coaching that women’s tennis and gymnastics have had has been top notch, on the same level as the men, and over many decades, in contrast to the neglected women’s football. The only people that coach in the women’s game are those that can’t get one in the men’s. It boils down to money. No half decent coach will work for peanuts. They would sooner work for a 5th tier men’s team and earn more than a top tier women’s team and earn less. I cannot see that disparity ever changing to the point women’s football is on a similar level to women’s tennis.

Agree with this. Like the African countries were laughed at not too long ago. The likes of China, Korea, Japan, American soccer are all starting to produce talent so given the size of their countries, if they take it seriously then its inevitable that soon they will develop top top players

The same with the womens game. Its more professional, the facilities are so much better and the interest is more widesperad nowdays. But I think it will take another 10-15 years to see a drastic improvement in the levels.

 

[Osamabindiesel]

As long as leagues aren’t affected negatively and they are good enough, then it is fine by me. If teams have to accommodate them based on their gender, then there is a problem. It’s just a matter of not letting it get out of hand.

 

[Papa Shango]

T
And they do. Women’s international teams play local boys teams as warm ups to the World Cup. The regularly get thrashed.

No they don't really. You may get the odd very rare game like that but it doesn't happen at all really.

 

[Papa Shango]

Very slack use of the word mate. I would happily see (& hope to see one day) a woman crowned world snooker champion, F1 grand prix winner, perhaps even a masters golf win?

These sports should give women the ability to compete against men, but even then it's difficult as snooker and golf especially you need the extra power to succeed. To pit a woman against professional athletes in a sport where how fast you can run, for how long, can you challenge against bigger, stronger opposition. FFS look how much we turn on players like Bernard for not coming out with the ball when going into a tackle. It's crazy to even think about unless women flip the whole genetics thing on its head and start running faster, lifting more weights etc. Etc.

I would assume the misogyny viewpoint comes from the massive overreaction of some people (not you).

I mean it's a discussion worth having, right? Nothing will ever come from it anyway but just the discussion is a start.

I find people flipping saying stuff like it's "ridiculous", "PC gone mad" and slating the women's game are probably those with some form of agenda.

 

[wm02]

Apart from the obvious (bigger, stronger, faster), women’s football is terrible. It’s terrible not by men’s standards, but by women’s.

Pound for pound, women’s tennis is as good as men’s. Reason being they have played at the same level for over a century. The power or running naturally won’t be the same, but the technique is not dissimilar. A Graf whipped forehand is on a level with Federer. Quite a few sports in the Olympics are also at the same level technique wise (gymnastics being the obvious one), as they have had both sexes partaking in it for a long time.

Women’s football is in it’s infancy. The coaching that women’s tennis and gymnastics have had has been top notch, on the same level as the men, and over many decades, in contrast to the neglected women’s football. The only people that coach in the women’s game are those that can’t get one in the men’s. It boils down to money. No half decent coach will work for peanuts. They would sooner work for a 5th tier men’s team and earn more than a top tier women’s team and earn less. I cannot see that disparity ever changing to the point women’s football is on a similar level to women’s tennis.

Regarding tennis, I believe the racquet technology has improved women’s tennis while harming the men’s game. There aren’t enough exciting rallies in men’s tennis these days.

 

[Yank]

What on earth makes you think a team would put an "average female CB against Andy Carroll".
It's like the old saying about young players playing in a senior league - "if they are good enough then they are old enough". Same would apply to women.

I bet you were against female officials when they started?

Absolutely nothing to do with being PC.

Your comment about female officials is just as stupid as his "average female CB against Andy Carroll".

 

[Baines' left foot]

How long before there’s a mandatory quota where Premier League teams have to have a minimum amount of women in their squad?

World’s gone blinking mad!!!

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Why does everything have to be politically correct these days?

You watch a game of womens football then watch a PL game and compare the physical intensity of the two.

Put the best womens football team in the world against the Best mens and they'll get smoked.

Thats not sexist thats reality.

Same way the best female boxer would get pummelled over 12 rounds by Anthony Joshua hence why they dont mix gender.

Its a complete physical mismatch its nothing to do with "skill".

BJJ is probably the one phsyical competition where the gender gap isnt "that" bigger and thats because BJJ was designed for physically smaller people to defend themselves against bigger opponents.

Also did you are a BJJ player, it might be fun to get to grips with a female opponent!

lol