Munich Shooting

[Whistlin' Dixie]

read it back along with the post I quoted, if you can't work it out then you are clearly clouded by anger right now

Far from it.

Anyone who doesn't condemn the person(s) responsible, anyone who knows who they are (And they know who they are) and doesn't grass them up because they're afraid their own community will ostracise them (Thereby making their 'community' complacent in these attacks themselves, despite their protestations and pleas of innocence) or seeks to find a cop-out excuse is an apologist and a coward in my eyes.

 

[dandydan]

do you live in fear of everyone becoming a hooligan when you visit a football match because football hooligans are attending the same event as moderate fans ?

You could condemn football hooliganism without being branded a racist casualphobe.

 

[SNova]

you warrant every name you have been hit with on this site, and so much more

'The tolerant left'

 

[dholliday]

do you live in fear of everyone becoming a hooligan when you visit a football match because football hooligans are attending the same event as moderate fans ?

Remind us how we solved the hooligan problem? Ok, except it raised its ugly head again this summer, of course.

We solved it by talking openly about it. By changing the culture of football itself.

You haven't, but others have in this thread. There have been comments that Merkel should be jailed because she supported helping Syrian refugees. You've perhaps jumped into a thread without reading the history of it

Fair enough, Bruce.


My core belief is that whatever we do, we should be careful not to create any more victims. Victims would include unfair deportations, clearly.

 

[dandydan]

you warrant every name you have been hit with on this site, and so much more

You can't say that! It will just create more division and hate which is just what the racists want!

 

[nsno-chris]

There's always a fanatical side to everything but how many kill at the rate this particular branch of fanaticism does? It's a genuine problem.

But the problem is not all Muslims, its a tiny miniority. There have been more Muslim deaths over the past year due to these fanatics then Western deaths; its a global issue, and yes it needs to be addressed but certainly nto by categorising "Mulsims" vs "Everyone else" because of your experiences.

 

[dholliday]

I have to go pick up mad loads of furniture, lads...cheers for the decent discussion

 

[longers]

UKIP manifestos don't call for non believers to be killed.
Just sayin like.

How does this prove that all muslims are violent ?

Are all christians homophobic because they read the bible ?

 

[dandydan]

How does this prove that all muslims are violent ?

Are all christians homophobic because they read the bible ?

How does your previous post prove ukippers are more likely to be racist?

 

[SNova]

How does this prove that all muslims are violent ?

Are all christians homophobic because they read the bible ?

Utter strawman. Where has someone said all?

 

[Sy-]

There have been comments that Merkel should be jailed because she supported helping Syrian refugees

Jail is a bit harsh, but welcoming hoards of unvetted people with a flagrantly suspect ratio of military aged males into your country is a bit daft for someone trusted to run said country.

 

[dandydan]

Jail is a bit harsh, but welcoming hoards of unvetted people with a flagrantly suspect ratio of military aged males into your country is a bit daft for someone trusted to run said country.

Nah mate. All those 5'10 lads with full beards are unaccompanied minors.

 

[1966efc]

A couple of facts.

Immigrants not from violent cultures already experience a higher rate of schizophrenia & paranoid schizophrenia - social stress rather than genetic causes appearing to be at the root. (Study published in BMJ & other studies.)

Many middle Eastern people will have experienced atrocious conditions, vile atrocities over a prolonged period.Post Traumatic Stress must be present in a number of these people.

Despite warning signs over at least five years, European borders were wholly unprepared for large scale ingress.

An opinion.

Frankly, the only wonder is that the horrors have been limited.

And a guess:

There is neither the spare capacity of expertise nor the cash to offer initial psychological assessments of all those entering Europe and, if there were, there would be people howling about racial profiling.

 

[longers]

How does your previous post prove ukippers are more likely to be racist?

So you think its more likely for a muslim to be violent than for a ukiper to be racist ? seriously ? what planet do you live on.

Utter strawman. Where has someone said all?

lol wut ? he suggested that because muslims read the quran they are violent, and yet im the strawman for pointing out the stupidness of this ? OK M8.

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

But the problem is not all Muslims, its a tiny miniority. There have been more Muslim deaths over the past year due to these fanatics then Western deaths; its a global issue, and yes it needs to be addressed but certainly nto by categorising "Mulsims" vs "Everyone else" because of your experiences.

But it is 'muslims vs everyone else' It's even 'muslims vs muslims' in some cases.

Even though you might think it's a 'tiny minority' (And to an extent it is) it's still millions of them.

Kyrgyzstan, Xinjiang, Thailand, Burma, The Philippines, Timor, Gujarat - all with muslim minorities, all of them want their own muslim states and are using terrorist means to try to get them.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Stop playing down the problem as being smaller than it actually is - it just isn't. It's nigh-on global.