2017/18 Muhamed Besic

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Good. He stays out of harms way rather than play for those donkeys.

If Allardyce leaves in the summer Dowell will be a first team regular here by Christmas at the latest.
To be fair I don't see that happening. Squad player maybe but we should hopefully be aiming much higher with the likes of Ziyech etc
 
To be fair I don't see that happening. Squad player maybe but we should hopefully be aiming much higher with the likes of Ziyech etc

We've had two managers who dont value a game like Dowell's. His fortunes will transform dramatically if we get a new manager this summer who values a bit more finesse on the ball. He did well pre-season for us and I have no doubts that if he has a run in the first team he'll nail down a place. It's all about a team playing to the strengths of some players and not to the strengths of others, that will determine whether they're a success or not.
 
Rate him and like him. Like the fact you bet he going to injure an oponent, a teammate or himself every time he takes to the pitch. Or at least get carded early so he has to play the rest of the match on the edge. That there is a cult player
 
We've had two managers who dont value a game like Dowell's. His fortunes will transform dramatically if we get a new manager this summer who values a bit more finesse on the ball. He did well pre-season for us and I have no doubts that if he has a run in the first team he'll nail down a place. It's all about a team playing to the strengths of some players and not to the strengths of others, that will determine whether they're a success or not.
They are good values to assess a player by. And agreed, he did have a solid preseason with us. The loan came as somewhat of a surprise, though I also think it will have been good for him.

Our horribly lobsided squad meant he didn't have a place, though in hindsight he would've been useful.
 
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sp...f_season_and_Middlesbrough_s_promotion_hopes/

Middlesbrough's Besic on future beyond end of season.

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ON TARGET: Mo Besic scored his first Middlesbrough goal in last weekend's 2-1 win at Derby County


MO BESIC is hoping Middlesbrough’s “Premier League quality” will be the key to ensuring they return to the top-flight via the play-offs, but will be shelving talk of his own future until the end of the season.

Besic signed a season-long loan when he moved from Everton in January, and having missed the vast majority of the last 12 months through injury, the 25-year-old has successfully reignited his career during his time at the Riverside.

Boro boss Tony Pulis would love to sign him permanently in the summer, but the terms of the midfielder’s loan agreement do not contain a clause that would enable his temporary employers to automatically trigger a full-time deal.

Besic’s situation could be complicated by events at Everton, with a great deal of uncertainty hanging over the future of Sam Allardyce, and the Goodison Park hierarchy may be reluctant to make a decision over the Bosnian’s position until their own managerial questions are answered.

Besic, who joined Everton in a £4.8m move from Hungarian side Ferencvaros in the summer of 2014, is enjoying his time on Teesside. However, he will not be discussing his future plans while Boro are still involved in a promotion battle.

“I feel really at home here,” said Besic. “The supporters sing my name, even though I have not been here very long. I am happy here, and I want to give them something back on the pitch.

“I am settled here. I feel really happy to play, and hopefully we will go to the play-offs. I will be very happy if we can go to the Premier League, then I will sit down and talk about my future.

“At the moment, I don’t want to think about that. I just want to keep going in the way that I have been, and hopefully bring Boro back to the Premier League. Then we can talk about what will happen.”

Boro will guarantee a play-off place if they beat promotion rivals Millwall at the Riverside on Saturday, having moved three points clear of the London club when they won at Derby County last weekend.

Provided they make the play-offs, the Teessiders are likely to come up against Cardiff City, Fulham or Aston Villa for a place at Wembley, but while all three prospective semi-final opponents are in good form, Besic insists his side have nothing to fear from any of them.

With the Derby win having followed hot on the heels of a home victory over Bristol City, Boro appear to be peaking at just the right time, and Besic feels the presence of so much top-flight experience is proving a crucial factor with the pressure ratcheting up.

He spent more than three years in the Premier League with Everton, and six members of the team that started last weekend’s win at Pride Park represented Boro when they were playing in the top-flight last season.

“We have very experienced players in our squad, and that is important,” said Besic. “They have already gone up to the Premier League once, and some have even done it a couple of times, and that definitely helps.

“We have a lot of players who can play in the Premier League, and they have shown that. A lot of the team have already played in the Premier League and that is important when you are playing in important games.”

Pulis also boasts extensive experience in both the Premier League and Championship, and while he has only been in his current post for four months, the Boro boss has already solidified the side he inherited from Garry Monk.

The defence looks much more reliable with Ryan Shotton and Daniel Ayala providing a physical presence, while both Adam Clayton and Grant Leadbitter have been instructed to play a shielding role at the base of midfield when they are named in the team.

The strong defensive base has enabled the likes of Besic and Adama Traore to concentrate on attacking, and the result is that Boro have developed a much better balance. They are also digging in when required, with Pulis’ insistence on a strong work ethic paying dividends.

“We have a really strong squad, and the manager has been here for three or four months now so we are all getting a bit closer together,” said Besic. “We have become more of a team now, and you can see that from the way we have been playing.

“We haven’t always played that well in the last few months, but we have always been fighting as a team, and that is the most important thing. You cannot play fantastically in every game, but you can always give your all and fight as a team. It will be important we do that in the games we have left to play.”

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The strong defensive base has enabled the likes of Besic and Adama Traore to concentrate on attacking, and the result is that Boro have developed a much better balance. They are also digging in when required, with Pulis’ insistence on a strong work ethic paying dividends

If he could stay fit (which he seems to be doing at Boro) I would much prefer to see Besic playing the role Gana had against Newcastle - at least he has a good pass in him to the correctly coloured shirts, rather than to the opposition or the linesman.
 
How is that suddenly people are saying this bloke is a good player? He’s not good enough, simple as. A squad player at best, and he’s at the correct level currently.

The bloke has talent, He is completely two footed, can be a leader, can tackle, fears nobody and is a much better passer than people give him credit for.

His problem is that he never seems to put it all together. It's no surprise to me that he is coming into good form after getting a prolonged run in a team. In the past he would come in for a game or two, get injured or dropped and then resurface months later. Its not a good situation for any footballer that.

He is the type of player (and we have a couple of them, Klaassen for example) who needs a completely clean slate when a new manager comes in as he does have ability and could thrive under the right type of management or system.
 
I appreciate that some reckon he's world class but I haven't seen enough of him form an opinion. What I do know is that were a PL first XI to be picked right now, only Bainsey would be in it (although on the strength of his captaincy ability alone, Capt Jags would push hard for a place).
 
The bloke has talent, He is completely two footed, can be a leader, can tackle, fears nobody and is a much better passer than people give him credit for.

His problem is that he never seems to put it all together. It's no surprise to me that he is coming into good form after getting a prolonged run in a team. In the past he would come in for a game or two, get injured or dropped and then resurface months later. Its not a good situation for any footballer that.

He is the type of player (and we have a couple of them, Klaassen for example) who needs a completely clean slate when a new manager comes in as he does have ability and could thrive under the right type of management or system.

It`s mad that it`s taken a dinosaur like Pullis, to bring out the best in him, when another dinosaur like Allardyce, wasn`t even willing to give him a chance.
 
He is another surplus squad player who has to be thrown into the mix when the new regime (hopefully) takes its place. What Sam got right was saying through previous mismanagement there are far too many players, 35 I think, and maybe 10 need to be culled. Actually more than 10 if we hope to sign say 3 decent players making a squad of 25. Besic might fall into the retained group or he might prefer regular Championship football in the north east. He may never get regular football here.
 
We've had two managers who dont value a game like Dowell's. His fortunes will transform dramatically if we get a new manager this summer who values a bit more finesse on the ball. He did well pre-season for us and I have no doubts that if he has a run in the first team he'll nail down a place. It's all about a team playing to the strengths of some players and not to the strengths of others, that will determine whether they're a success or not.

Love it dave... saying he's gonna make it but leaving the door open to blame it on a manager that doesn't build a team around a player with no prem experience. Either way your proved correct
 
He's played under 4 managers for us and none of them have properly trusted him.

Maybe he needs the run of games to kick on, but he's in the Championship for a reason. Either because he's not fit and / or good enough. Probably the former. Which is ironic given the frequent shouts to punt DCL and Davies out on loan to a Championship team.

Personally I think he'll move at the end of the season. I hope he has a good career and it will be interesting to see if he develops.
 
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