Muhamed Besic

[paulus]

Barry
mccarthy
besic
gibson
osman
barkley

theres 6 international midfielders currently on oir books for 3 positions.

take out gibson and osman + sign someone and thats fine for me. You should note we have a big squad already and can substantially trim it down while still adding players to have 2 players for every position....

I agree , if Gibson and Osman are going then we need at list one more player there. And we have a a lot of dead weight

 

[BlueToff]

Then whose playing on the left if cleverley is central (and out of position)

The playmaker we will hopefully bring in....

Or Lennon, or Del, or Tarashaj/Niasse... we have plenty of options mate (and that's presuming Kev leaves as well)

 

[BlueToff]

I agree , if Gibson and Osman are going then we need at list one more player there. And we have a a lot of dead weight

Cleverley plus a youngster to come through would be fine unless we get Europe.

 

[orly]

I can say that you are mentol and very boring one to . Witch mentols tend to be... Cheers !

Like the sweet?

 

[DualityNSNO]

If anyone is interested Yugoslavia had six republics and two provinces. Croatia, Bosnia, Monte Negro and Serbia are almost or is the same language. I could say to speak 5 language , they are so litlle diference, even people are more or less the same. Macedonia is hard to understand these four nations, Slovenia also has its own language .They always inclined to Austria and Germany. Tito of this mess made economic and military power, and although he was a dictator, people lived nicely and Yugoslavia. Now as for Football .Yugoslavia and most of the 4 Republic of Croatia, Bosnia Serbia and Montenegro are always produced masters of the ball , Macedonia and Slovenia less . Very rarely we had players like Mo Besic. It is a combination of talent and Yugoslav and Germany discipline and desire to work and win.Yugoslavia at end of 90is was only Euro country who had positive score with that superpower Brasil but we could never outrun Germans That is my opinion and a little information on Yugoslavia, which I loved and was proud of her. Now We are just slaves of capitalism as well as other countries.

Macedonia is not a country though, so it's understandable. They speak slightly broken Bulgarian, for what it's worth, which isn't as close to Serbian etc (still Cyrillic alphabet with randomly thrown J's in there).

It also shouldn't be a country.

Anyway, Besic is football God.

 

[MACCA75]

Why?

What would you like us to go with?

Besic has to play. Barry is still key to us retaining possession when needed, McCarthy also needs to play.

Lennon (if fit) is on fire atm and Barkley can be given a free role as he won't be tasked with as much defending if he has three midfielders behind him.

It's the best way to stand a chance of beating a team like Arsenal or even Chelsea given how vulnerable we were in the last 15 on Saturday. Pack the midfield with three quality ball players and let Lennon do the running with Barkley given a roaming role.

Seems horribly unbalanced, Barkley out wide is horrendous, there will just a big gap for them to exploit on that side of the pitch.

 

[BlueToff]

Seems horribly unbalanced, Barkley out wide is horrendous, there will just a big gap for them to exploit on that side of the pitch.

Yeh I see your point. Something like this I think would work:

-------------Joel
Coleman - Jags - Mori - Oviedo
Besic --- Barry - McCarthy
----------Barkley---------Lennon
------------Lukaku

 

[paulus]

Macedonia is not a country though, so it's understandable. They speak slightly broken Bulgarian, for what it's worth, which isn't as close to Serbian etc (still Cyrillic alphabet with randomly thrown J's in there).

It also shouldn't be a country.

Anyway, Besic is football God.

Macedonia is a state, country ,what u prefer .

 

[DualityNSNO]

Macedonia is a state, country ,what u prefer .

A joke, a fallacy, a Greko-Bulgarian region - pick one.

 

[paulus]

A joke, a fallacy, a Greko-Bulgarian region - pick one.

That is your opinion I have many to but I was talking about facts

 

[DualityNSNO]

That is your opinion I have many to but I was talking about facts

Macedonia existed since Roman times as a region, then it was a Greek region before Bulgaria fought a lot of wars with Greece, took it over for a long time (during the times when we were an empire twice), and when we got freed from the Ottoman empire, we helped them by co-organising their uprisings, which then resulted in them becoming a separate country.

After the two Balkan wars Serbia took over that baby-country (not really formed properly yet, but in existence to an extent nonetheless) and, together with Greeks tried to remove any connection to Bulgaria, by burning down our churches and schools by the hundreds throughout the whole country. Then the first World War came and, seeing as we weren't on the right side at the time, gave Macedonia to the newly formed coalition/Kingdom of Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia, and the same anti-Bulgarian laws came in, this time also expelling any clergymen and teachers, changed their alphabet to yours (which is essentially the same, but using Germanic letters instead of our Slavic ones), and burned any books and information you could find about Bulgarians ever being there, despite the Macedonians carrying Bulgarian names for the most part at the time.

Then the Serbian government pursued total Serbianisation of the region, so to say, by sending an army of about 50000 Serbian soldiers in Macedonia, as well as colonising a lot of families there too.

After the formation of Yugoslavia, Macedonians still wanted a free country, and lo-and-behold, Bulgarians helped them again with the organisation of revolutionary groups.

Results of all those banishments and colonisation attempts are largely unsuccessful and you can see that just by listening to their national folklore, which is, oddly enough, mostly songs in Bulgarian, just like ours. Only thing they kept is the sense of national pride (which many on here know my opinion of), and the Serbianised alphabet.

This is not my opinion, these are facts based on history.

Anyway, we're going madly offtopic here. Sorry Moolz.

 

[paulus]

Macedonia existed since Roman times as a region, then it was a Greek region before Bulgaria fought a lot of wars with Greece, took it over for a long time (during the times when we were an empire twice), and when we got freed from the Ottoman empire, we helped them by co-organising their uprisings, which then resulted in them becoming a separate country.

After the two Balkan wars Serbia took over that baby-country (not really formed properly yet, but in existence to an extent nonetheless) and, together with Greeks tried to remove any connection to Bulgaria, by burning down our churches and schools by the hundreds throughout the whole country. Then the first World War came and, seeing as we weren't on the right side at the time, gave Macedonia to the newly formed coalition/Kingdom of Serbia, Croatia and Slovenia, and the same anti-Bulgarian laws came in, this time also expelling any clergymen and teachers, changed their alphabet to yours (which is essentially the same, but using Germanic letters instead of our Slavic ones), and burned any books and information you could find about Bulgarians ever being there, despite the Macedonians carrying Bulgarian names for the most part at the time.

Then the Serbian government pursued total Serbianisation of the region, so to say, by sending an army of about 50000 Serbian soldiers in Macedonia, as well as colonising a lot of families there too.

After the formation of Yugoslavia, Macedonians still wanted a free country, and lo-and-behold, Bulgarians helped them again with the organisation of revolutionary groups.

Results of all those banishments and colonisation attempts are largely unsuccessful and you can see that just by listening to their national folklore, which is, oddly enough, mostly songs in Bulgarian, just like ours. Only thing they kept is the sense of national pride (which many on here know my opinion of), and the Serbianised alphabet.

This is not my opinion, these are facts based on history.

Anyway, we're going madly offtopic here. Sorry Moolz.

I know History mate but what I was talking in my first post is facts and Macedonia is country , that is a fact.Don t know why u have need to write all this . You have opinion based on History i was writing about Yugo football and mentality of it ,mainly that people understan what was Yugoslavia and what is left from it .

 

[DualityNSNO]

I know History mate but what I was talking in my first post is facts and Macedonia is country , that is a fact.Don t know why u have need to write all this . You have opinion based on History i was writing about Yugo football and mainly that people understan what was Yugoslacia and what is left from it .

My opinion of them is based on their opinion of us, as they're all apparently related to Alexander the Great (no, they are not) and disregard any points towards anyone helping them at any point, despite the fact we helped them start up their country when (at the time) our land was given to them after a few conventions and treaties in the early 1900's.

A Bulgarian region speaking Bulgarian, but writing it with Germanic letters, which integrate as soon as they step on our soil (which they do for at least 3-5 years as we're in the EU, benefits innit) because they already bare our names and language, and in fact in Western Bulgaria some places have the exact same dialect, despite never being that closely related to Macedonia. Do you see where I'm coming from with this? lol

 

[loooweee]

lol facts!

 

[paulus]

My opinion of them is based on their opinion of us, as they're all apparently related to Alexander the Great (no, they are not) and disregard any points towards anyone helping them at any point, despite the fact we helped them start up their country when (at the time) our land was given to them after a few conventions and treaties in the early 1900's.

A Bulgarian region speaking Bulgarian, but writing it with Germanic letters, which integrate as soon as they step on our soil (which they do for at least 3-5 years as we're in the EU, benefits innit) because they already bare our names and language, and in fact in Western Bulgaria some places have the exact same dialect, despite never being that closely related to Macedonia. Do you see where I'm coming from with this? lol

Mate is something wrong with u ,I m not arguing and even don t care , I simple saying that Macedonia is a state today . Now can we leave it be or go on National forums to make your case . This is wrong place.