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It's not. You said the downfall was to Moyes decisions. I'm agreeing with you on that, but seen as you think the Blue Union should be finding investors for Everton, I thought they could also help out with tactical decisions as well.
Do you get my point?
No, stop going off topic. If you want to discuss the BU do it in the right thread. I will wipe the floor with you in there.
Great post by the OP.
The problem is in my opinion is people are now just fed up and i think in some quarters it makes people hate when really they are just frustrated and want change.
Moyes has been great for Everton but as time goes on his limitations become more and more annoying and leads to us all wanting change.
His role as manager has become stale and we all just need to move on. He needs to leave and go somewhere else and we need fresh ideas.
I don't hate the guy and i wish him all of the success when he leaves but 12 years is a long time without significant growth.
Not all of the lack of spending can be blamed on the board either. Let me digress. If in the games where Moyes got his tactics wrong and maybe just maybe we were more consistent and lifted a trophy or two when it was there for the begging we might have generated more revenue for being in Europe and the gradual growth might have been sped up thus us being able to afford more players and entice them with European football.
For those who just hate the guy and say he just isn't a good manager i tend to ignore as that is simply not true. He is a good manager as the work he has done at the club which we all know as fact has been fantastic there is no denying that.
The problem is he will probably never be a great manager because he cannot see past his own limitations and failures and grow on them.
I really hope he leaves and the board really consider their options and not just appoint the cheapest option as that is what i fear the most. Bringing in someone who they can afford who won't do a good job or even some flashy foreign manager who will be great short term but won't understand the English game.
Again in my opinion.
The problem is in my opinion is people are now just fed up and i think in some quarters it makes people hate when really they are just frustrated and want change.
Moyes has been great for Everton but as time goes on his limitations become more and more annoying and leads to us all wanting change.
His role as manager has become stale and we all just need to move on. He needs to leave and go somewhere else and we need fresh ideas.
I don't hate the guy and i wish him all of the success when he leaves but 12 years is a long time without significant growth.
Not all of the lack of spending can be blamed on the board either. Let me digress. If in the games where Moyes got his tactics wrong and maybe just maybe we were more consistent and lifted a trophy or two when it was there for the begging we might have generated more revenue for being in Europe and the gradual growth might have been sped up thus us being able to afford more players and entice them with European football.
For those who just hate the guy and say he just isn't a good manager i tend to ignore as that is simply not true. He is a good manager as the work he has done at the club which we all know as fact has been fantastic there is no denying that.
The problem is he will probably never be a great manager because he cannot see past his own limitations and failures and grow on them.
I really hope he leaves and the board really consider their options and not just appoint the cheapest option as that is what i fear the most. Bringing in someone who they can afford who won't do a good job or even some flashy foreign manager who will be great short term but won't understand the English game.
Again in my opinion.
We managed it in the league but that was before our collapse in January.
It is a cop out answer but I really think that if we had an even slightly stonger squad out of the top 11-14 players, we'd be much higher up the table now
That performance against Man United in the semi's in 09 was a real clutch performance, so Moyes teams are capable of it
Was it bollocks we held on to nil nil against a united third team, they also had a clear panalty not given. i think we had about 3 shots in the second half. Nothing like big joe's Everton in 95 against spurs.
We held on though. That's the point surely?
We were clinging on for dear life at the end of the final in 95
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