davids
Player Valuation: £70m
Over enough games that it could have made a big difference to our points total today.
Good post.
They're gutted he's had a decent season.
Can't wait to blame him for something/anything.
Imagine not wanting your own players to do well.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
It is his fault though...
Bluebonic
Player Valuation: £40m
Keane has been sound this season, in my opinion Tarkowski has been far more of a liability. However they are both utter dogpoo when played as a pair, because they simply don't have the pace.
Had Branthwaite had been playing alongside either Keane or Tarkowski last night he would have caught up with Sesko and the goal wouldnt have happened.
Had Branthwaite had been playing alongside either Keane or Tarkowski last night he would have caught up with Sesko and the goal wouldnt have happened.
Rehnman
Player Valuation: £1.5m
I thought the players gave it a really good go, it was great to see a bit more atmosphere and I think it would really have ignited if we’d forced one, but we never really looked like scoring did we?
We so clearly set up to try and stop the opposition playing each week, but that tends to stop us playing too. Like Dyche, Moyes seems to believe in organisation for the defence and freedom for the attack, but in reality that just means no patterns of play, no moving the opposition around, just lots of crosses and the creation of a reasonable number of very low quality chances.
There’s no problem having an old school manager - it definitely has its benefits - but he should constantly be showing his ambition and openness to change by hiring the best young coaches out there. This is what Alex Ferguson did. It’s what the early Moyes did when he brought in Irvine who he hardly knew. The Moyes of today seems to have reverted to an employ-your-mates worldview through, closing himself off from the future. It’s a shame for him and it’s a shame for us, but there’s still a lot to be positive about in terms of the way this young squad is evolving.
We so clearly set up to try and stop the opposition playing each week, but that tends to stop us playing too. Like Dyche, Moyes seems to believe in organisation for the defence and freedom for the attack, but in reality that just means no patterns of play, no moving the opposition around, just lots of crosses and the creation of a reasonable number of very low quality chances.
There’s no problem having an old school manager - it definitely has its benefits - but he should constantly be showing his ambition and openness to change by hiring the best young coaches out there. This is what Alex Ferguson did. It’s what the early Moyes did when he brought in Irvine who he hardly knew. The Moyes of today seems to have reverted to an employ-your-mates worldview through, closing himself off from the future. It’s a shame for him and it’s a shame for us, but there’s still a lot to be positive about in terms of the way this young squad is evolving.
Imagine if we hadn’t given him a new deal - we’d have had to go out and sign another centre-half.
Even last night, he produced our best effort on goal out of nothing.
Yet somehow, we’re back on his case again.
I get people thinking we need better, but to pipe up about his contract renewal/say we should have let him go for free now... well, I'd like to say it's baffling but it's very much inline with the usual.
- Everton: 16 teams have scored more goals than us.
- Everton: only 3 teams have conceded fewer.
Even last night, he produced our best effort on goal out of nothing.
Yet somehow, we’re back on his case again.
I get people thinking we need better, but to pipe up about his contract renewal/say we should have let him go for free now... well, I'd like to say it's baffling but it's very much inline with the usual.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
A decent season; you guys.
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
Is that you Keggers?
NathDogg
Player Valuation: £60m
I totally agree that he ain’t picking himself, but I don’t think it’s scapegoating to say Keane epitomises everything that is wrong with Everton - failure and poor performance praised and rewarded.
He’s also by no means the only player who’s the issue either, but sadly, Keane makes others around him perform worse than they are capable of - it’s been demonstrated over the many years he’s been here.
I’m not gutted at all that he’s had a so called “decent” season, even with his red card and calamity defending in many games - he’s just not good enough, and shouldn’t have been offered a new deal or keep getting selected - end of.
BigDuncTributeBand
Player Valuation: £25m
To be honest, thought our centre backs were good last night. Obviously got caught out for the goal but barely looked troubled otherwise. He’s had a good season, very dependable.
His 3 goals are irrelevant when his distinct lack of pace and agility means we are so vulnerable to the counter at home. We can only afford to have ONE of Keane and Tarks playing, and Tarks brings more to the table than Keane with tackling/blocking/aggression.
I have one direct Yes/No question for you:
If Branthwaite was left CB last night, would that goal have been scored?
Rooney_Tunes
Player Valuation: £50m
Gutted Pedro, yes I am.
They're not, especially in a team which isn't scoring enough goals.
See Tarkowski's pace yesterday for their goal? Yikes.
i think most Everton fans would say Keane has been the better of the two this season.
A better question to pose in the David Moyes thread, or indeed, the James Tarkowski one. It was Tarkowski who was caught.
Not sure why the anger is being directed to Keane, it was an incredible pass and he managed to stay goal side of his man, his partner go exposed for pace and was possibly over committed. Personally I think its just a good goal, the only thing I would add is that if a manger selects a CB partnership with no recovery pace these goals are more likely
