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[Rita_Poon]

I'm not sure that the cops would go to the extremes of tracking down someone who'd come off a flight if they were accused of nicking sweets but I take your point.

wife beaters, sweet stealers. Whatever next.

Weren't these people entering the airport? It's a brave bunch of lads that get shirty on or near a plane, especially with an airport full of rabid violent filth to have to then wade through having been put on alert.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

They can clean their act up and apply the law to their fellow officers as soon as they like. Their choice, until then, here we are...

So you clearly are the same as all posters on GOT. If someone shouts a racist comment at Goodison then you are a racist too? Is this the logic?

 

[Rita_Poon]

So you clearly are the same as all posters on GOT. If someone shouts a racist comment at Goodison then you are a racist too? Is this the logic?

Exceptional. If they do that round me I pull a steward and say this twit* needs keeping an eye and an ear on. That's my job done. Civilian.

 

[Rita_Poon]

So you clearly are the same as all posters on GOT. If someone shouts a racist comment at Goodison then you are a racist too? Is this the logic?

You see a good barrel with a few bad apples, I see the exact opposite. That's fine. It's opinions. I'll condemn criminal behaviours where I see them, you can choose to be much less critical if you wish, that's life. And sometimes the taking thereof.

 

[Harryflashman]

I'm not sure that the cops would go to the extremes of tracking down someone who'd come off a flight if they were accused of nicking sweets but I take your point.

From reading what’s in the public domain I don’t think they’ve targeted them , I think it’s a fight or kick off and everything’s gone mental . Don’t they usually get them on the plane when they’re nicking them like that ? Had a lad lifted like that when I landed once . I believe the bloke who got stamped on has a brother whose a serving copper , that doesn’t make him an innocent but you’d think he’s not likely Reggie Kray either .

I don’t know what happened and I suspect things have happened off camera that we haven’t seen yet BUT the copper has stamped on someone’s head mate . Like I say , if he’s lost his rag has given someone a slap I’m not going to be part of a pile on in the those circumstances. I’m no particular lover but I’m also an adult and I know things happen but I’ll say it again it certainly seems he’s gone well OTT.

If , in the street , you saw someone kick a bloke laying on the floor in the head , then walk away then come back and stamp on someone’s head and I said to you “it’s ok he’s just cracked his mate “ , would you be outraged if he was arrested ?

 

[Tim's tourettes]

From reading what’s in the public domain I don’t think they’ve targeted them , I think it’s a fight or kick off and everything’s gone mental . Don’t they usually get them on the plane when they’re nicking them like that ? Had a lad lifted like that when I landed once . I believe the bloke who got stamped on has a brother whose a serving copper , that doesn’t make him an innocent but you’d think he’s not likely Reggie Kray either .

I don’t know what happened and I suspect things have happened off camera that we haven’t seen yet BUT the copper has stamped on someone’s head mate . Like I say , if he’s lost his rag has given someone a slap I’m not going to be part of a pile on in the those circumstances. I’m no particular lover but I’m also an adult and I know things happen but I’ll say it again it certainly seems he’s gone well OTT.

If , in the street , you saw someone kick a bloke laying on the floor in the head , then walk away then come back and stamp on someone’s head and I said to you “it’s ok he’s just cracked his mate “ , would you be outraged if he was arrested ?

Tbf, that is a good point. It did look well ott from the cop it just annoys me the whole social media,,rush to judgement that happens time and time again in many situations, without context and the story surrounding it all.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Tbf, that is a good point. It did look well ott from the cop it just annoys me the whole social media,,rush to judgement that happens time and time again in many situations, without context and the story surrounding it all.

He kidnapped, raped, killed, chopped up, and hid the body.

His offences of a sexual nature had been overlooked for a decade, and he was part of an armed unit protecting westminster.

Social media rush to judgement? context? There are monsters hiding in uniforms and they are taking lives.

 

[PhilM]

Judge lifted the embargo. Family and prosecution argued it wasn't right to hide identity like in all other cases (except minors and I believe national secrets, mi6 type persons).

re what Kaba couldn't face, indeed I quite agree, it's the same for anyone else, a certain former bbc presenter managed to die before facing the law.

Yes, I'm aware unarmed Kaba was was shot through the windscreen.

No, I mean there is an embargo on the name of the alleged shooter in the shooting at Tower Hamlets (conspiracy to murder) prior to the day Chris Kaba was killed.

All the others involved have been named and sentenced, but the alleged perpetrator can't be named. Have a think...

 

[Rita_Poon]

No, I mean there is an embargo on the name of the alleged shooter in the shooting at Tower Hamlets (conspiracy to murder) prior to the day Chris Kaba was killed.

All the others involved have been named and sentenced, but the alleged perpetrator can't be named. Have a think...

Forgive me, I see your line of thought now, but Duggan was armed apparently even though he wasn't. Tomlinson had attacked the police even though he hadn't. Menezez was carrying a bomb even though he wasn't. Andrew Malkinson was guilty beyond doubt, even though he wasn't. One of Stephen Lawrence's killers admitted to being a paedophile to police and they did nothing about him.
I have zero faith in the authorities, their gestapo, their checks and balances, and their convictions. There's people waiting to go to jail because they can't pay thousands in fines for covid breaches. Do as we say, not as we do.

The issue at the airport a couple of days ago stinks to me, because straight out of the traps it was, "these have attacked police and a police woman has suffered a broken nose".

The excuses were in instantly.

Just like always.

 

[PhilM]

Forgive me, I see your line of thought now, but Duggan was armed apparently even though he wasn't. Tomlinson had attacked the police even though he hadn't. Menezez was carrying a bomb even though he wasn't. Andrew Malkinson was guilty beyond doubt, even though he wasn't. One of Stephen Lawrence's killers admitted to being a paedophile to police and they did nothing about him.
I have zero faith in the authorities, their gestapo, their checks and balances, and their convictions. There's people waiting to go to jail because they can't pay thousands in fines for covid breaches. Do as we say, not as we do.

The issue at the airport a couple of days ago stinks to me, because straight out of the traps it was, "these have attacked police and a police woman has suffered a broken nose".

The excuses were in instantly.

Just like always.

It may be an excuse, but it may not. You may believe the police will automatically think a), but (speaking honestly but candidly) are you not guilty of the same?

You've assumed it's an excuse - with inference that it's an incorrect one - without allowing an appropriate investigation. Surely, we can't have it both ways.

Andy Burham was reported today saying...

Mr Burnham earlier told BBC Radio Manchester he had seen "the full footage" that showed a "fast-moving and complicated situation in a challenging location – it’s not clear cut".

"Time has been taken to get a clearer picture of what has happened," he said, adding that an investigation needed to proceed now "in a thorough and measured way".

He added: "I would ask for calm because what I can assure people is that the right and proper steps have been taken in the right way."

The point I've made previously is... let's wait and see: it doesn't look good and, based on probability, it's likely it won't be seen as lawful, but let's wait.

With the inability to talk about the Tower Hamlets case, you do have to ask a) what intelligence they had on the vehicle, and b) why they imposed the stop.

 

[Harryflashman]

It may be an excuse, but it may not. You may believe the police will automatically think a), but (speaking honestly but candidly) are you not guilty of the same?

You've assumed it's an excuse - with inference that it's an incorrect one - without allowing an appropriate investigation. Surely, we can't have it both ways.

Andy Burham was reported today saying...


The point I've made previously is... let's wait and see: it doesn't look good and, based on probability, it's likely it won't be seen as lawful, but let's wait.

See I think stuff has gone on off camera and we’re seeing the results of that chaos , what’s occurred I’ve no clue and I suspect it’ll be ages til we find out . That said it doesn’t really change my position on the kick/stamp. The fella getting gassed sprayed or whatever when had his hands in the air isn’t a good look but without pretty strong extenuating circumstances, which don’t seem present , that stamp will take some explaining.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It may be an excuse, but it may not. You may believe the police will automatically think a), but (speaking honestly but candidly) are you not guilty of the same?

You've assumed it's an excuse - with inference that it's an incorrect one - without allowing an appropriate investigation. Surely, we can't have it both ways.

Andy Burham was reported today saying...


The point I've made previously is... let's wait and see: it doesn't look good and, based on probability, it's likely it won't be seen as lawful, but let's wait.

With the inability to talk about the Tower Hamlets case, you do have to ask a) what intelligence they had on the vehicle, and b) why they imposed the stop.

a) involved with guns somehow the day before
b) they had all the excuse they needed to arrest a known criminal who just so happened to be a young black man. Again. Again.

re the top point, I see an opportunity to bang the same drum I have previous, I saw severe criminal violence doled out by those that pretend to protect us. I'm not passing up an opportunity to let the pigs have a good pasting here. They lost trust and policing with consent a long time ago. It's on them to rebuild it, and every week it seems there's yet another scandal. They aren't interested in improvement, so the hate they get they have earned a thousand times over.

I understand that is not palatable to some, and others may disagree strongly, that's fine. Carry on as is. The findings of the Casey report stand.

 

[Rita_Poon]

See I think stuff has gone on off camera and we’re seeing the results of that chaos , what’s occurred I’ve no clue and I suspect it’ll be ages til we find out . That said it doesn’t really change my position on the kick/stamp. The fella getting gassed sprayed or whatever when had his hands in the air isn’t a good look but without pretty strong extenuating circumstances, which don’t seem present , that’ll take some explaining.

pistol whipped as well.

 

[Harryflashman]

a) involved with guns somehow the day before
b) they had all the excuse they needed to arrest a known criminal who just so happened to be a young black man. Again. Again.

re the top point, I see an opportunity to bang the same drum I have previous, I saw severe criminal violence doled out by those that pretend to protect us. I'm not passing up an opportunity to let the pigs have a good pasting here. They lost trust and policing with consent a long time ago. It's on them to rebuild it, and every week it seems there's yet another scandal. They aren't interested in improvement, so the hate they get they have earned a thousand times over.

I understand that is not palatable to some, and others may disagree strongly, that's fine. Carry on as is. The findings of the Casey report stand.

I think google will tell you a few lads convicted over the shooting were originally charged on the basis Chris Kaba was involved . During the trial the unnamed gunman was identified as 24 , the same age as Chris Kaba.

Evidence , because people have been convicted , seems to suggest Chris Kaba is possibly or even likely involved in that incident . That doesn’t mean he wasn’t subsequently murdered by the police, I suppose for me it’s just indicative of evidence that’ll come out at the trial.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Rita you become a mini Davek in this thread whenever it's bumped, it's hard work. For what it's worth I have 2 friends who are police officers and they're the best of humanity, so I struggle with the generalization that they're pigs and scum you constantly bring to the table. I get that they've clearly wronged you in the past somehow like.