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[coollino]

I think a lot of incidents of trouble in areas where theres no respect for police authority. Kids throwing things at police. Idiots fighting with police. They know there's nothing police can do to fight back and no consequences.

If the police were armed I bet you'd find a lot of these things wouldn't happen.

Or they will antagonise them more knowing they won't use their guns again them, they're not going to open fire on a bunch of kids throwing stones are they

Police authority/respect needs to be earned anyway and maybe that's the issue. People putting on the uniform for power and not to help communities

 

[Rita_Poon]

What would you like police to do in that instance?

A known gang member. Known to carry fire arms. Rams a police road block with his vehicle?

This Chris Kaba.

Chris Kaba shooting: Martyn Blake named as murder-accused police officer

Chris Kaba died after being shot in a police operation in south London in September 2022.

www.bbc.co.uk

So a bunch of armed guys followed him in an unmarked car approached his vehicle on foot then demanded he get out of his vehicle. The vehicle he was driving had apparently been linked (whatever that means) to guns or something the day before, he refused to exit his vehicle and tried driving off and was murdered in cold blood.

Yes it appears he was a thug, certainly no angel. If that is the requirement for being shot in the head on the street, then the housing demand in this country (UK) will be sorted no problem by the end of the year.

martyn blake goes on trial for murder in October this year. I fully expect the same gloss and shine as the Mark Duggan cases.

 

[Goat]

So 'thugs' are fair game? step forward the officer throwing kicks and stamps in then. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[gianthogweed]

I cannot wait to see the policing on Saturday when Tommy Robinson’s gammon army start smashing up the capital.

 

[Eidean]

Time for bed lad?

 

[coollino]

With more 'hardened' criminals (I don't particularly agree with that terms - maybe determined or experienced is better suited) a custodial is an accepted risk.

How many people are involved in serious transportation and dealing of drugs? The answer is thousands, even with the risk of lengthy periods in custody.

The reason being that the potential rewards exceeds - in their eyes - the risk of time spent in prison. Arming officers will have little to no impact on that, at all.

If anything, it would only drive criminal gangs to further explore the use of firearms, knives et al. For me, there is very little reason for routine carrying of firearms.

Yep, more guns in circulation is only a bad thing.

The decommissioned police firearms will no doubt end up somewhere

 

[PhilM]

This Chris Kaba.

Chris Kaba shooting: Martyn Blake named as murder-accused police officer

Chris Kaba died after being shot in a police operation in south London in September 2022.

www.bbc.co.uk

So a bunch of armed guys followed him in an unmarked car approached his vehicle on foot then demanded he get out of his vehicle. The vehicle he was driving had apparently been linked (whatever that means) to guns or something the day before, he refused to exit his vehicle and tried driving off and was murdered in cold blood.

Yes it appears he was a thug, certainly no angel. If that is the requirement for being shot in the head on the street, then the housing demand in this country (UK) will be sorted no problem by the end of the year.

Without wanting to light the touch paper, the issue we have is that Kaba could not face criminal prosecution over an alleged plot, involving conspiracy to murder.

We've also got to be mindful that the case involving this shooting is currently under a legal embargo, including the name of the alleged shooter...

...which I'm sure you're able to consider the severity of this, but some offenders have been named, prosecuted and received lengthy custodial sentences.

This may complicate the case further, when combined with the alleged events on the day - the officer is alleged to have been stood in front of the vehicle.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

London Bridge is an example of how one video can construe a story, but not the full one. One notorious poster on here went mad due to it.

How can a police officer execute someone? You catch the jist. Only when did the full story come out, did the actions of the officer be commended.

Now I’m not saying that’s the case here, or even suggest it’s the likely one, yet my point has been that let’s wait for the full investigation before judgement.

It's easy to sit behind a keyboard in judgement but I think it is fair to say that the vast majority posting on here wouldn't fancy going to face trouble threat and violence on a daily basis. Having been fortunate enough to travel to many corners of the world my experience is that we should be thankful for the police force we have.

 

[Tramps_mate]

It's easy to sit behind a keyboard in judgement but I think it is fair to say that the vast majority posting on here wouldn't fancy going to face trouble threat and violence on a daily basis. Having been fortunate enough to travel to many corners of the world my experience is that we should be thankful for the police force we have.

The problem we have is the Police aren't respected. They need to earn respect obviously.

My partner has a friend that's sister works in what is basically Police Internal Affairs. I forget the proper name for them. She says that 95% of her time isn't looking in to alleged police brutality or corruption..

95% of her time now is spent investigating female officers that take selfies during shift and post them online! THAT is the biggest internal police problem at the minute!! Complete joke!!

 

[Harryflashman]

The problem we have is the Police aren't respected. They need to earn respect obviously.

My partner has a friend that's sister works in what is basically Police Internal Affairs. I forget the proper name for them. She says that 95% of her time isn't looking in to alleged police brutality or corruption..

95% of her time now is spent investigating female officers that take selfies during shift and post them online! THAT is the biggest internal police problem at the minute!! Complete joke!!

Any clue where I should send my CV ?

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

The problem we have is the Police aren't respected. They need to earn respect obviously.

My partner has a friend that's sister works in what is basically Police Internal Affairs. I forget the proper name for them. She says that 95% of her time isn't looking in to alleged police brutality or corruption..

95% of her time now is spent investigating female officers that take selfies during shift and post them online! THAT is the biggest internal police problem at the minute!! Complete joke!!

I'd take that over being faced with handing money over or getting nicked. Or the local force being on the payroll of local mob boss. Or facing the gun slinging approach we see minorities facing in the USA.

 

[coollino]

The problem we have is the Police aren't respected. They need to earn respect obviously.

My partner has a friend that's sister works in what is basically Police Internal Affairs. I forget the proper name for them. She says that 95% of her time isn't looking in to alleged police brutality or corruption..

95% of her time now is spent investigating female officers that take selfies during shift and post them online! THAT is the biggest internal police problem at the minute!! Complete joke!!

I know three people who has been employed by the police

One guy is in counter terrorism and he is one of the nicest guys you'll meet, he said upa boxing school for the underprivileged and will definitely do his job properly

Another is my gf's best friend, and she worked in the child protection unit. She was showing us all kind of evidence on her phone, nothing explicit obviously but the state of peoples homes etc when they raided them. She took her job seriously but clearly thought that was fine

The other, who was an old friend of mine - jumped th underground barrier in London, got caught by a guard and then for some insane reason he showed his police ID to try to get off. Obviously didn't work and he got taken to caught over it lost, got demoted and ended up leaving. He is completely the type of person who should never be allowed in the police

 

[Rita_Poon]

Without wanting to light the touch paper, the issue we have is that Kaba could not face criminal prosecution over an alleged plot, involving conspiracy to murder.

We've also got to be mindful that the case involving this shooting is currently under a legal embargo, including the name of the alleged shooter...

...which I'm sure you're able to consider the severity of this, but some offenders have been named, prosecuted and received lengthy custodial sentences.

This may complicate the case further, when combined with the alleged events on the day - the officer is alleged to have been stood in front of the vehicle.

Judge lifted the embargo. Family and prosecution argued it wasn't right to hide identity like in all other cases (except minors and I believe national secrets, mi6 type persons).

re what Kaba couldn't face, indeed I quite agree, it's the same for anyone else, a certain former bbc presenter managed to die before facing the law.

Yes, I'm aware unarmed Kaba was was shot through the windscreen.

 

[ChesterBlue]

I see Lee “face of gammon” Anderson has said the police should be given a medal. Ashfield must be the biggest dump

 

[Eidean]

It's easy to sit behind a keyboard in judgement but I think it is fair to say that the vast majority posting on here wouldn't fancy going to face trouble threat and violence on a daily basis. Having been fortunate enough to travel to many corners of the world my experience is that we should be thankful for the police force we have.

They’re trained to the highest of standards as Armed Response & this is absolute basics. That Armed Response Officer is in the wrong job if he’s allowing his emotions take over his training.